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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rich <rich@example.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 16:28:25 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <vj4hf9$3sqat$4@dont-email.me> References: <o4ucnYo2YLqmZ876nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vj1m3f$33eu5$16@dont-email.me> <aS2dnU8NvNJ3qsj6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <lrl33gF2rglU1@mid.individual.net> <9eb45192-e996-fa3d-b002-c02798bb2b7a@example.net> Injection-Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2024 17:28:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5bbb81f215d7d1f8b55fb1ec57d67ed5"; logging-data="4090205"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/r2xHfLfxHFplOTz2mZvYN" User-Agent: tin/2.6.1-20211226 ("Convalmore") (Linux/5.15.139 (x86_64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:URVmZmEFYzCitmOJPM9cV/ZKLCo= Bytes: 2587 D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: > >> On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 01:08:41 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> >>> Well, Musk sells gigantic lithium batteries >> >> I'm waiting for more accurate information but there is a rumor Musk may >> pivot to hydrogen. Great, another technology with no supporting >> infrastructure. >> > > Wow, Toyota would celebrate! I think they are still clinging to hydrogen. Unless there's been some new exotic materials discovered that solves the hydrogen embrittement problem, hydrogen on a large scale will either be very very expensive for the pipe/bottle replacements needed, or will simply create a different sort of "bomb" (vs. a lithum battery fire) sitting next door. A better 'solution' (although the catalyst tech may not yet exist) is some form of electrically driven catalyst that could extract CO2 from the air and synthesize some form of liquid fuel (liquid at STP). Then solar PV would have a "sink" for their extra energy, and the synthesized liquid fuel could be stored in normal non-pressure vessels, piped/transported via the existing liquid fuel infrastructure, and 'burned' at a location remote from the synthesis to "move energy around". Of course the rabid greenies would see "burn fuel to make electricity" as bad, even if the fuel being burned was synthesized via Solar PV energy and atmospheric CO2 (plus likely water input as well, since one tends to need some hydrocarbon bonds to create a fuel that is liquid at STP).