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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Seriation Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 18:29:32 +0100 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <vj79eb$orpt$1@paganini.bofh.team> References: <vj1pgp$5u55$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vj4o37$3uq6p$1@dont-email.me> <vj4tf6$g0ta$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vj59mq$2m21$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 17:29:47 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="814909"; posting-host="U/G9l/DcEtIZF5xwaqTcAA.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; User-Agent: flnews/1.3.0pre21 (for GNU/Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8y9ly0oLHciRm2ql/TCGw6GTepw= X-Ed25519-Sig: 485e2333372c4a5a4b129df3fde3e153ea01207c8ce6871d997629af4060fc22 dacf1313ed21c4d406af9f42556dbacd41df24df12e90a55c3515c437d26ea05 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Date: It's Mon Sep 11423 06:29:32 PM CET 1993, the September that never ends. X-Ed25519-Pub: c0ffee5a36e581eb10f60b2831b3cdb955d2e7ef680dd282a8d43ad8b84b357a Bytes: 2821 Lines: 50 Peter Fairbrother wrote: > On 08/12/2024 19:52, Stefan Claas wrote: > > Peter Fairbrother wrote: > > > > 21-letter (usually) seriation was used to make both digraph frequency > > > analysis and transparency analysis harder. > > > > According to the German WWII documentation 17-letters per two lines, > > a blank line and then again 17-letters per two lines and so on. > > There were variations, but the Army and most others used 21 letters. I > don't know what the blank lines were. Well, the reason for the blank line are IIRC not explained in the docs. Anyways, I came up now with the idea to use hex values, so that we may come up with some programs, for use in sci.crypt ... :-) $ echo -n 'Hello sci.crypt! :-)' | xxd -ps | dkhf 48656C6C6F207363 692E637279707421 203A 2D29 $ echo -n 'Hello sci.crypt! :-)' | xxd -ps | dkhf | seriation 46 89 62 5E 66 C3 67 C2 67 F9 27 00 77 34 62 31 22 0D 32 A9 $ dokahex Tagesschlüssel für den 09.12.2024 (UTC) Tagesschlüssel 1: Kasten: A Kasten: B 0 4 6 A 6 9 E 3 F 1 3 E 7 2 4 D 7 C D 5 1 C 0 5 B 2 9 8 F 8 A B And to simplify the encryption/decryption process, we could do it this way. We only mirror from a -> b and b -> a, like: With the seriation from above and the example box a and b: Ciphertext: 90 B4 E1 etc. This doublebox hex variation with only mirroring is IMHO easy and would allow to transmit small binary blobs. :-) -- Regards Stefan