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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clams casino <cc@invalid.cc> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: Redefining eternity Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 16:44:15 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <vj7vcd$kjgl$4@dont-email.me> References: <lr78rtFqhg0U1@mid.individual.net> <vimknu$3vvf6$1@dont-email.me> <lr9baiF5svhU1@mid.individual.net> <f3ae419cf15a2ca278832883219fa14c@www.novabbs.com> <lr9m2uF7f26U1@mid.individual.net> <vip8iv$pj7c$2@dont-email.me> <lrep2aF1v1gU1@mid.individual.net> <4rq4P.5$LjMe.2@fx15.iad> <67547f2a$2$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vj2jpd$3cavs$1@dont-email.me> <858c5f01-90b2-ede9-d1d7-3aebcefef67d@example.net> <vj4k7q$3t4s7$1@dont-email.me> <7ef2395c0131795d611e0c3d38e68b7e@www.novabbs.org> <vj53p2$1cqm$7@dont-email.me> <c08488f7da502b5ee32dacce95b437b1@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 00:44:14 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a63612a93546373fb14d094e4ab67f80"; logging-data="675349"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19dlTgYzabQjqLd+1xwzoMjRVWYn9Xy+2U=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:D1x+Mz/2x5ZEvzUzokvqLOhVCQI= In-Reply-To: <c08488f7da502b5ee32dacce95b437b1@www.novabbs.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3770 On 12/9/2024 12:49 PM, dsi1 wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 21:40:50 +0000, clams casino wrote: > >> On 12/8/2024 2:19 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 17:15:38 +0000, clams casino wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/8/2024 3:34 AM, D wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 7 Dec 2024, Carol wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Michael Trew wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/5/2024 6:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then they started to make pork healthier and it didn't taste as >>>>>>>> good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What does that mean? >>>>>> >>>>>> Big movement at the height of the 'fat-free' era (JR High I think for >>>>>> you?). They started doing something with pigs to be somewhat less >>>>>> fatty or something? >>>>>> >>>>>> Obviously pork overall isn't lean but a lot of the cuts now are >>>>>> leaner. >>>>>> They also trim more fat off than they used to. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is very bad. When I buy my pork, I try to buy pieces with more >>>>> fat. >>>>> The very lean ones are not very good. >>>> >>>> Pork shoulder is the way to go! >>> >>> Indeed, stay away from pork loin. Go for the pork shoulder and belly >>> instead. The loin i.e., the other white meat, is just boring. Here's >>> some Okinawan rafute. When you make it right, you can cut it with >>> chopsticks. It's not easy to make right. I've done it occasionally. >>> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/J7MjrgDj8WvbagCQ7 >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LNtpV8oPWg >> >> >> Oh yes - 1 word = unctuous! > > If you make it correctly it is! It's not that easy though. I think > Korean/Japanese/Chinese pork belly is different from American pork > belly. The fat distribution is different. Cooking rafute is interesting. > If you add all the shoyu too early the belly gets tough. I probably > should have spent more time cooking with my aunt. I think you are doing just fine as it is. But to your point, there is a wide variance in pork bellies as I found trying to make my own bacon up. Gotta lot to learn, and the pork belies from the Mexican grocer are a much thicker and harder fat band than I was expecting. Then again their oxtails are twice the size of Wal Mart's, so it evens out over time, lol.