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From: Rich <rich@example.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 04:46:06 -0000 (UTC)
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186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
> On 12/8/24 7:17 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2024-12-08, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> And consider the explosive force stored in a 350-700 bar (your AI's 
>>> number) pressure vessel that becomes brittle enough to go "bang".  
>>> That's one hell of a bang, even without the hydrogen itself 
>>> explosively combusting as part of the pressure release.
>> 
>> I've seen the results of a 200-bar scuba tank letting go.  And 
>> that's just a little 80-cubic foot tank filled with air.
> 
>   I've seen that too - close up.  Blew out a reinforced CBC wall 
>   ......  sheer dumb luck nobody was in the filling room at the time 
>   or they'd have been Spam.
> 
>>> Plus, the walls of the pressure vessel quite effectively become a 
>>> 'fragmentation grenade' in the process of going bang.
>> 
>> <shudder>
>> 
> 
>   High-pressure containers - esp ones that have to 'cycle' often - 
>   are a bomb waiting to go off.  Fatigue/corrosion take their awful 
>   toll - then BOOM !
> 
>   If the boom is a flammable gas ... far worse.
> 
>   Hydrogen CAN have its uses - but at "industrial" sites, not out in 
>   public.  You can feed it into expensive fuel cells, you can mix 
>   x-percent with natural gas.
> 
>   But as a general-purpose 'motor fuel' ...  NO !  Besides, no proper 
>   infrastructure for it.

For a 'motor fuel' it is difficult to replace the benefits of liquids 
that do not need pressure vessels (beyond their own evaporation 
pressure, which is usually quite mild).  We have an entire setup in 
place for transporting, storing, and dispensing liquids (gas/diesel 
pumps).

But, to avoid more 'carbon' in the air, the liquids have to be 
synthesized somehow from carbon already in the air.  And that we don't 
have on a scale large enough to be a source to replace our current 
liquid fuels.