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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:05:23 +0000
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On 09/12/2024 20:50, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 09/12/2024 09:53, D wrote:
>>> Swedens government has now decided that sweden shall have new, 
>>> working nuclear power in 10 years.
>>>
>>> I would bet several hundred euros against this being done on time.
>>
>> I'm not so sure.
>> At the moment Rolls Royce is going through the red tape box ticking 
>> exercise on their reactors.
>> They want to deploy the first ones by 2030.
>> The Czech Republic is working with RR on this as well
>>
>> There is a huge potential market for the first companies to put 
>> together scalable small modular reactors that are in mass production.
>>
>> Build your concrete structures, pop in a boiler and turbines and some 
>> generators and ship a complete reactor in, and plug it in to a factory 
>> produced control system, and that's it.
>>
>> 5 years top's is the aim
> 
> This is the government. No SMR:s in sight. They are thinking about 
> "safe" traditional ones.
> 
> If they get it done in 10 years, and if they dare to explore SMR:s, I 
> will be happily proven wrong.

Sweden is  small enough to be reasonably governed by people who don't 
get too puffed with self importance.

I think the salient points for Europe are:-

- Net Zero is pie in the sky. It ain't gonna happen.
- Renewable energy is pie in the sky, and massively expensive overall. 
It ain't gonna happen either.
- further reliance  on fossil fuels is fraught with danger since by and 
large Western Europe doesnt have any.
- All the Nordic hydro is pretty much exploited as well as alpine and in 
the Iberian peninsula.
- All that is left is nuclear, and the point of SMR is to reduce build 
time and hence cost.

We have to use what fossil is left to bootsrtap the nuclear economy.

Note I didn't use the phrase 'climate change' anywhere above. It is 
*supremely irrelevant.'

  The greater issue is the growing scarcity of fossil fuel

-- 
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich 
people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason 
they are poor.

Peter Thompson