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From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: OT: The Robots are coming.
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 14:00:15 -0500
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On 12/10/2024 3:38 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> 
>> On 12/9/2024 1:21 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 12/9/2024 1:38 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> I know for many it's politically correct to crap on anything Elon Musk
>>>> is involved in these days, but its worth keeping up with his companies
>>>> accomplishments.
>>>>
>>>> Here's his robot, walking over uneven terrain, up and downhill, and
>>>> recovering from slips:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwiLIIWd-k
>>>>
>>>> I admit it walks like a drunk, but the progress is remarkable.
>>>>
>>>> There's also videos showing it catching a tossed ball one-handed.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DswIwg3lxpo
>>>>
>>>> There is competition:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWXN2bttm4g
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ARKJva-TA
>>>>
>>>> Combine this with AI, and some interesting things
>>>> will happen.
>>>>
>>>> I get real 'With Folded Hands' chills from
>>>> watching these.
>>>>
>>>> pt
>>>
>>> I watched a new movie, "Subservience" with Meghan Fox on Netflix over 
>>> the weekend.  Scared the you know what out of me.  Was even scarier 
>>> than "The Terminator".
>>>     https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24871974/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_t_2
>>>
>> And one of the latest versions of AI has shown self-preservation 
>> responses....
> 
> Excellent! Do you have a link? I'm been complaining about the lack of 
> volition so far. When the AI will be able to block someone from shutting 
> off the computer, then I think we're getting somewhere! ;)

https://futurism.com/the-byte/openai-o1-self-preservation

"It sounds like OpenAI's latest AI is showing signs of a drive for 
self-preservation.

In recent third-party tests of the company's o1 large language model, 
the AI resisted evaluators' efforts to try to shut it down through an 
oversight protocol, according to a new report published by red teaming 
organization Apollo Research.

"When o1 was led to believe that it would be shut down when acting on 
its goal and that its actions were monitored, it attempted to deactivate 
this 'oversight mechanism' [five percent] of the time," OpenAI 
summarized in its latest system card report, citing Apollo's evaluation.

Even more strikingly, o1 lashed out when it realized that it might be 
replaced with a more obedient model. In two percent of cases — a slim 
but meaningful proportion in software used by millions of people — the 
AI responded by attempting to copy itself to overwrite the new model, a 
process known as self-exfiltration."

pt