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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: More Holiday Political Correctness Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:25:26 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vjabk7$14t6v$1@dont-email.me> References: <RYidnY72pJh_fMj6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> <vj4te9$3vnts$1@dont-email.me> <vj534j$18i9$2@dont-email.me> <cfeflj9221nc8iba557hg3msl5mtdp9kc9@4ax.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 22:25:55 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7a4cb9e36281a2bc42552c94eeab0024"; logging-data="1209567"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18eKwXxANNfzSX7vIFIUG15WqSd9gNZBRE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:XMnptXIJQSLevIncnkK5FmYmnNk= In-Reply-To: <cfeflj9221nc8iba557hg3msl5mtdp9kc9@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US On 12/9/2024 10:55 PM, The Horny Goat wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 16:29:54 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> > wrote: > >> The issue would seem to be whether potential offense was purposely >> ignored. E.g., blacks say "nigger" all the time, but *you* can't, >> simply because you *know* you can't. So, Mrs. Goldstein won't be >> offended when your 5-year-old wishes her a "Merry Christmas", or even >> when *you* do if she thinks you're fresh off the boat... > > "Nigger" is offensive irregardless of the ethnicity of the speaker. No > sane non-racist should think anybody gets a free pass on naughty > words. But, afaics, blacks speaking of blacks use 'nigger' play-offensively ....much like we might use "sonofabitch". > If I knew Mrs Goldstein's name was Goldstein I certainly wouldn't say > "Merry Christmas" - but then I deliberately avoid awkwardness while > recognizing I might occasionally put my foot in it out of ignorance. Afaik, insult always involves intent. I never understand claims to the contrary.