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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:20:08 +0000
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On 10/12/2024 20:17, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 09/12/2024 20:50, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/12/2024 09:53, D wrote:
>>>>> Swedens government has now decided that sweden shall have new, 
>>>>> working nuclear power in 10 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would bet several hundred euros against this being done on time.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not so sure.
>>>> At the moment Rolls Royce is going through the red tape box ticking 
>>>> exercise on their reactors.
>>>> They want to deploy the first ones by 2030.
>>>> The Czech Republic is working with RR on this as well
>>>>
>>>> There is a huge potential market for the first companies to put 
>>>> together scalable small modular reactors that are in mass production.
>>>>
>>>> Build your concrete structures, pop in a boiler and turbines and 
>>>> some generators and ship a complete reactor in, and plug it in to a 
>>>> factory produced control system, and that's it.
>>>>
>>>> 5 years top's is the aim
>>>
>>> This is the government. No SMR:s in sight. They are thinking about 
>>> "safe" traditional ones.
>>>
>>> If they get it done in 10 years, and if they dare to explore SMR:s, I 
>>> will be happily proven wrong.
>>
>> Sweden is  small enough to be reasonably governed by people who don't 
>> get too puffed with self importance.
>>
>> I think the salient points for Europe are:-
>>
>> - Net Zero is pie in the sky. It ain't gonna happen.
>> - Renewable energy is pie in the sky, and massively expensive overall. 
>> It ain't gonna happen either.
>> - further reliance  on fossil fuels is fraught with danger since by 
>> and large Western Europe doesnt have any.
>> - All the Nordic hydro is pretty much exploited as well as alpine and 
>> in the Iberian peninsula.
>> - All that is left is nuclear, and the point of SMR is to reduce build 
>> time and hence cost.
>>
>> We have to use what fossil is left to bootsrtap the nuclear economy.
>>
>> Note I didn't use the phrase 'climate change' anywhere above. It is 
>> *supremely irrelevant.'
>>
>> The greater issue is the growing scarcity of fossil fuel
> 
> Amen! But I don't think the fossil fuel scarcity is too much of a 
> problem, and that there's enough left for at least a generation or two.
> 
I used to think so, but I think that the Arab states at least are very 
close to empty, and we don't want to buy Russian oil - the price is too 
high.

> But it won't be a big bang, plenty of technologies exist to bridge the gap.
> 
> Would be cool if I could finally have a nuclear powered car that I 
> bought full, and would never have to refuel. ;)

Its almost possible. The problem is all that lead makes it even heaver 
than a BEV and you have to stop to fill up the water just as often.
There is no device that turns heat into electricity better than a steam 
turbine, sadly.



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