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Subject: Re: [OT] Self-defense in Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:28:41 -0500
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On 2024-12-10 10:41 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 12/10/2024 10:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Dec 10, 2024 at 7:08:35 PM PST, "Rhino" 
>> <no_offline_contact@example.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just saw this video about a guy in Toronto who experienced a home
>>> invasion and was only able to reach someone on 911 on the 5th try -
>>> after the invaders had left.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCFiuiX38TI [2 minutes]
>>>
>>> The comments under the video, if true, are quite disturbing in some
>>> cases. I was especially troubled about the guy who called 911 and had to
>>> be transferred to 4 other 911 operators (around the province) before he
>>> finally got one that spoke English!!! Silly me, I would have assumed
>>> that fluency in English (and maybe French) was a prerequisite for a 911
>>> operator in this country....
>>>
>>> I got to wondering for the umpteenth time about what my rights were with
>>> respect to self-defense. As luck would have it, the algorithm put this,
>>> video by a Canadian lawyer at the top of my suggested videos list:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xolys_2hl4 [8 minutes]
>>>
>>> Clearly, we do NOT have anything like Stand Your Ground or Castle
>>> Doctrine here! The presenter, who is apparently a practising lawyer,
>>> repeatedly mentions a case where a home-owner shot and killed an
>>> intruder who had threatened to hurt his elderly mother and was charged
>>> with 2nd degree murder. (The video is a year old so I'm curious to know
>>> what happened with this case but he doesn't give enough details to
>>> research it.)
>>>
>>> I expect that if a crisis happened to me where I had to defend myself,
>>> I'd just do whatever seemed necessary and hope that the legal system
>>> wouldn't screw me over but I wouldn't be so naive as to assume that
>>> there would be no consequences.
>>
>> Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
> 
> Not clear you want a populace to feel that a plea of self-defense is 
> automatically granted...
> 
> 
Are you accusing me of expecting the law to change so that self-defense 
claims are never questioned? Because if you are, I really don't know 
where you are getting that from what I've said. Here in the real world, 
people can be scoundrels and some could kill wantonly and try to pass it 
off as self-defense. There have been a variety of examples in the real 
world. The law needs to reflect that.

-- 
Rhino