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From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please>
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Subject: Re: Dutch-like language [OT]
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:12:54 +0100
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On 12/11/24 03:59, john larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 14:23:08 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/5/24 8:50 AM, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 12:59:22 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
>>> (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Last night in the 80-metre band I heard two 'hams' talking.  The vowel
>>>> sounds of their voices seemed to be characteristically Dutch (an accent
>>>> like the Groningen area) but the language was completely
>>>> incomprehensible.  I listened for several minutes but didn't hear a
>>>> single word I recognised
>>>>
>>>> Do any of our Dutch contributors know of some dialect that is Dutch in
>>>> sound but does not use the standard Dutch language?
>>>>
>>>> [I tried to send this to Jan by e-mail but the address I found for him
>>>> on the Web just bounced.]
>>>
>>> I used to be a technician in a language lab full of reel-to-reel tape
>>> decks. I was paid 65 cents per hour.
>>>
>>> I did a lot of tape copying and some studio recording so I heard a lot
>>> of languages. Some of the slavic languages and Cantonese sounded awful
>>> to me. The most beautiful was Portugese, and the speaker was beautiful
>>> too.
>>
>>
>> It can become really tough with slang. One guy was sure he had good
>> fluency in Dutch and Flemish. Until we listened to this guy:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D57aoWB3Rjg
>>
>>>
>>> It' hard to imagine some other-language speakers who want to sound
>>> like the Dutch.
>>>
>>
>> Don't want to but it happens when you live there and immerse. I lived in
>> the south and spent much time in Belgium. After a while (until today)
>> English-speakers no longer recognized where I really came from because
>> my accent became all messed up. It just happens.
>>
>> When you move a lot one of the not so desired consequences is that you
>> are fluent or somewhat fluent in several languages but you speak none of
>> them perfectly, including your native tongue.
> 
> I grew up in New Orleans, which has its own accent, nothing like the
> South. It's sometimes called "Yat", from the Aloha-like greeting
> "Where yat?" which is properly answered by "Where yat?"
> 
> And I married a Cajun girl. The Cajuns have their own language and
> accent. Two islands of weirdness that just happen to be in the south.
> 

I can probably understand the cajun dialect. It's close to French.

Jeroen Belleman