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Subject: Re: [OT] Self-defense in Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:38:17 -0500
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On 2024-12-10 10:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Dec 10, 2024 at 7:08:35 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I just saw this video about a guy in Toronto who experienced a home
>> invasion and was only able to reach someone on 911 on the 5th try -
>> after the invaders had left.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCFiuiX38TI [2 minutes]
>>
>> The comments under the video, if true, are quite disturbing in some
>> cases. I was especially troubled about the guy who called 911 and had to
>> be transferred to 4 other 911 operators (around the province) before he
>> finally got one that spoke English!!! Silly me, I would have assumed
>> that fluency in English (and maybe French) was a prerequisite for a 911
>> operator in this country....
>>
>> I got to wondering for the umpteenth time about what my rights were with
>> respect to self-defense. As luck would have it, the algorithm put this,
>> video by a Canadian lawyer at the top of my suggested videos list:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xolys_2hl4 [8 minutes]
>>
>> Clearly, we do NOT have anything like Stand Your Ground or Castle
>> Doctrine here! The presenter, who is apparently a practising lawyer,
>> repeatedly mentions a case where a home-owner shot and killed an
>> intruder who had threatened to hurt his elderly mother and was charged
>> with 2nd degree murder. (The video is a year old so I'm curious to know
>> what happened with this case but he doesn't give enough details to
>> research it.)
>>
>> I expect that if a crisis happened to me where I had to defend myself,
>> I'd just do whatever seemed necessary and hope that the legal system
>> wouldn't screw me over but I wouldn't be so naive as to assume that
>> there would be no consequences.
> 
> Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
> 
> 
Exactly. I first heard that as dialog out of Sipowicz's mouth in an NYPD 
Blue episode and it made a LOT of sense then, just as it does now.

My heart goes out to everyone who has to stand trial for harming someone 
in self-defense, like Daniel Penny just did. Fortunately, it worked out 
in his case although the stress must have been borderline unbearable.

I just hope his acquittal hasn't put a target on his back, a target that 
some BLM type might like to hit....

-- 
Rhino