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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: OT: The Robots are coming. Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 12:29:23 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vjci5j$1kuam$1@dont-email.me> References: <vj7gvh$hts1$1@dont-email.me> <vj7n17$j4sk$2@dont-email.me> <vj87mf$lobi$1@dont-email.me> <qvgiljhcugtth88t0l6a6bt50tkapd2p0i@4ax.com> <vjcc9d$1jljd$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 18:29:23 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7fa9a97ce2492366bc4cff3da4b67573"; logging-data="1734998"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Oibms36mLaIBDtWQEow0z8m9FsCJNfpE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:OqK5GT6JVvbee8wcaCFmHRaJHIQ= In-Reply-To: <vjcc9d$1jljd$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2682 On 12/11/2024 10:49 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 12/10/24 23:49, The Horny Goat wrote: >> On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 18:06:09 -0800, Dimensional Traveler >> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >> >>>> I watched a new movie, "Subservience" with Meghan Fox on Netflix over >>>> the weekend. Scared the you know what out of me. Was even >>>> scarier than >>>> "The Terminator". >>>>   https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24871974/? >>>> ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_t_2 >>>> >>> And one of the latest versions of AI has shown self-preservation >>> responses.... >> >> Heck that was part of Asimov's Laws of Robotics 50+ years ago > > Asimov's 3 Laws were an idea to make us less fearful > of the robots. So far I doubt that any solid basis for installing > the 3 Laws before the 'bots leave the shop exists. Asimov's 3 Laws were an idea to hang a bunch of stories around. There's tons of ambiguity (define "harm" for a start) which allowed a lot of good stories - how would an Asimovian robot approach the Trolley Problem, for example? AI is currently at the Wild West stage - there aren't much in the way of controls. Within a very short time, if it hasn't happened already, we're going to see war drones allowed to make lethal targetng decisions on their own, to counter the ECM on the battlefield. There are already anti-radiation loitering munitions that circle an area until they detect a radar, and then decide to hit it, without a human in the loop. pt