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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Colorado hands-free driving law taking effect in the new year
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:55:46 -0800
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On 2024-12-11 09:13, Andrew wrote:
> David Yurman wrote on Wed, 11 Dec 2024 07:51:04 +0100 (CET) :
> 
>> Beginning on Jan. 1, 2025, Colorado drivers will no longer be allowed 
>> to use a mobile electronic device while driving unless they use it via 
>> hands-
>> free accessories.
> 
> Notwithstanding the police and fire vehicles have tons of electronics in
> them and they're not hands free, the fact that most people can't comprehend
> (because they simply guess at everything is there is no reliable scientific
> evidence that the use of cellphones in the USA in vehicles had any effect
> whatsoever (up or down) on the reliably reported accident rate over the
> period before cellphone ownership percentages skyrocketed, during the
> period where cellphone ownership percentages went from 0% to nearly 100%,
> and afterward, to today.
> 
> The accident rate, as reported by the US Census Bureau, which has been
> reporting these figures accurately since the 1920's, shows no effect.
> 
> Actually, the accident rate has been slowly trending downward, but that was
> happening before, during the rise in ownership, and after the plateau.
> 
> Nobody can find a single cite on the entire Internet showing US accident
> rates rising from before, to during and after cellphones existed.
> 
> The *only* people claiming it did make money out of creating the laws.
> 1. Lawyers
> 2. Police
> 3. Insurance
> 
> Nobody on this newsgroup has ever found a reliable cite showing the
> accident rate in the USA rising in accord with cellphone ownership.
'The findings of the present study confirmed the impairments associated 
with the use of mobile phones among young drivers leading to poor 
control of the vehicle. '

<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8297239/>

'As a result of meta-analysis Prepared for Foundation for Traffic Safety 
by Caird et al., 2018, the general conclusion on the effects of mobile 
phone use while driving suggested by White et al., 2004 is that both the 
use of handheld and hands-free mobile sets significantly increased the 
risk of having a car accident. They found that the use of different 
phone types was associated with an increase of approximately 40% of 
reaction time and an accident risk multiplied by 4. According to 
Billieux et al., 2008 it seems that mobile phone use while driving is 
related to a high level of dangerous behaviors.'

<https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1687850723001401>

Shall I go on?