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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: [OT] Murder in New York Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 11:03:26 -0800 Organization: nil Lines: 66 Message-ID: <vjcnlu$1lpbv$1@dont-email.me> References: <ef0975d032abe1b350eed7329d66d0ba@www.novabbs.com> <vjaecu$15b3k$1@dont-email.me> <pan$a2a1c$92b89718$5b815e33$7761f838@cpacker.org> <vjcco5$1jljd$2@dont-email.me> <cd5ebff7f798a6a3baf29199c1c0019f@www.novabbs.com> Reply-To: blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 20:03:27 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7d9ef10b89aa66e5a9761086f8c483dd"; logging-data="1762687"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19kPh4/4incdtjAY9fbCBaH" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:L0p0YzJNWKVWigB9HTTBiG4uVwI= In-Reply-To: <cd5ebff7f798a6a3baf29199c1c0019f@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3612 On 12/11/24 09:39, quadibloc wrote: > On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 15:56:54 +0000, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> Like Ghandi I believe that Western Civilization would >> be a good idea but I fail to see where it has arrived. > > Not long after Gandhi's quip, though, came the partition of India in > 1947. > > Say what you will about the industrialized nations of the West, but they > have > outbreaks of what India calls "communal violence" rather less often than > India. And today India is governed by the BJP and its leader Narendra > Modi, > who openly favors Hindu supremacy. We in the USA, have outbreaks of individual violence, attacks on schools, churches, synagogues and temples. In 2020 on January 6 we had communal violence. Before that we had frequent communal violence directed toward African-Americans and referred to as Lynching The same sort of violence has been directed against Jewish people, gay people and their cohorts with state laws suppressing their rights to exist > > However, since the U.S. has elected Trump, and Canada appears to be on > the > verge of electing Pierre Polievre (who tries to come across as a normal > Conservative politician, but by supporting the "Freedom Convoy" he > revealed > himself to represent the same madness as Trump) perhaps I should not be > quite > so sanguine about the West. > > (The Freedom Convoy was a protest that blocked off a significant area of > Ottawa, > interfering with the ability of several businesses to operate, demanding > the > resignation of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, which was a protest > against > the basic public health measures Canada took in response to the COVID-19 > pandemic.) > > Apparently the world is going mad, and will soon fall into a global > tyranny, in > which the world's three nuclear superpowers, Russia, mainland China, and > the > U.S. will all get along just fine, dividing the world between them as > three > like-minded dictatorships. I dread this prospect. Not that I feel it is > certain - but even a detectable probability of such a calamity is > intolerable > to me, so I'm not satisfied with the hope that the entire GOP will stop > short > of supporting Trump when it comes to the point of him leading America > into the abyss. > > John Savard First comes the North American Alliance. bliss