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From: Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: question about linker
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:20:50 +0100
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On 12.12.2024 15:37, bart wrote:
> On 12/12/2024 14:03, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>> On 11.12.2024 16:03, David Brown wrote:
>>> On 11/12/2024 06:37, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
>>>
>>>> Concerning tcc, they have explicit endorsment from gawk developer:
>>>> he likes compile speed and says that gawk compiles fine using tcc.
>>
>> Who was that?
>>
>> What I find documented in the GNU Awk package was this:
>>
>>       _The Tiny C Compiler, 'tcc'_
>>
>>       This compiler is _very_ fast, but it produces only mediocre code.
>>       It is capable of compiling 'gawk', and it does so well enough that
>>       'make check' runs without errors.
>>
>>       However, in the past the quality has varied, and the maintainer has
>>       had problems with it.  He recommends using it for regular
>>       development, where fast compiles are important, but rebuilding with
>>       GCC before doing any commits, in case 'tcc' has missed
>>       something.(1)
>>
>>       [...]
>>
>>       (1) This bit the maintainer once.
>>
>> That doesn't quite sound like the GNU Awk folks would think it's a good
>> tool or anything even close ("mediocre code", "well enough", "runs
>> without errors", "quality has varied", "had problems with it") And that
>> it's obviously not trustworthy given the suggestion: "rebuilding with
>> GCC before doing any commits".
> 
> This sounds like you imposing your own interpretion, and trying to
> downplay the credibility of TCC.

You don't think all these words are a clear indication? - The original
text you see above is almost just a concatenation of all these negative
connoted words. It really doesn't need any own words or interpretation.

Aren't those original words, experiences, and suggestions clear to you?

(I have neither a reason nor an agenda to downplay any compiler. - Why
do you, again, make such imputations that are typically 98% wrong; in
your case yet even 100% wrong.)

> 
>> And I cannot find any statement that "he likes compile speed", he just
>> stated that it is very fast (which seems to just have astonished him).
> 
> This looks like the original source:
> 
> [link snipped]

This webpage contains the same text as the file in the package that I
quoted; it came from the file  ./doc/gawkworkflow.info  packaged with
the GNU Awk tarfile.

Janis

> 
> This is what it said just before:
> [...]