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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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On 2024-12-12 11:49, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI
>>>>>>> apps [and therefore don't need replacement with Windows apps].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ignoring that you are now attempting to deflect, you declared macOS to
>>>>>> be inadequate simply because it COULD run Windows apps in CrossOver...
>>>>>
>>>>> ???
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...so why isn't Linux inadequate when you actually CHOOSE to run Windows
>>>>>> apps?
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you drawing a distinction there?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not.
>>>>
>>>> YOU are.
>>>>
>>>> YOU are calling macOS inadequate for being able to do something that not
>>>> only can one do in Linux, but moreover something YOU actually need to do.
>>>
>>> I'm using Agent because I always used it.  It's one app.  I actually
>>> would be motivated to switch if I were using macOS, probably, to
>>> Usenapp, but that would be crazy given that Linux is the OS I would
>>> prefer to run..
>>
>> Actually, it was TWO apps when last I checked...
> 
> 
> I have three Windows apps installed, but Agent is the big one in use.

Proving my your own metric that Linux is inadequate.

> 
> 
>> But you're continuing to ignore the point.
>>
>> You're claiming that the mere EXISTENCE of a facility to run Windows
>> software under macOS (CrossOver Mac) proves the inadequacy of macOS...
>>
>> ...so why doesn't the existence of the same facility on Linux prove its
>> inadequacy?
> 
> 
> Neither are bad things, actually.  I'm claiming that for IRC, Linux
> has better options, and has options for Usenet that are acceptable,
> including running a Windows client.

And yet you declared it was proof of macOS's inadequacy...

....while not saying the same about Linux.

> 
> 
>>>>>> And turning to your deflections:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Name such an app.
>>>>>
>>>>> For Usenet, I've heard good things about Usenapp for macOS, never seen
>>>>> it, it didn't exist when I had mine.  It may be better than what's
>>>>> available for Linux GUI.  But certainly Linux has options for GUI IRC.
>>>> You're supposed to be supporting your claim that:
>>>>
>>>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>>>
>>>> And with no surprise at all, you're completely failing.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I were starting without any Windows apps, I'd want to go toward
>>> Linux for choice, yes.  There are specific things macOS excels at, but
>>> I'm an Internet person, simply having a quality desktop is the
>>> experience.  It's hardly surprising I'd be running Linux.
>>
>> You made a specific claim:
>>
>> 'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'
>>
>> In what way are they "better"?
> 
> 
> Usenapp really may be a great GUI app for Usenet, like Agent,
> available on macOS.  But I would still use Linux because of other
> software.  Hell, on a Mac, I'd probably even get M$ Office.  But
> that's kind of the point.  Now I've spent all this money on a computer
> and software, that doesn't do anything better than I can with Linux
> and LibreOffice.
This wasn't about what you LIKE, doofus.

This was about your declaration that:

'Linux's native apps for this are better than Apple-centric macOS GUI apps'

Now, I don't know whether you were just referring to WiNE vs CrossOver 
Mac, or apps in general, but for once in your miserable existence, try 
backing up a claim you've made.