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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:03:51 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: <vjfmk7$2upa9$2@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vhmtph$j1ek$1@dont-email.me> <vhn1jk$jf6v$1@dont-email.me> <vhn3po$jvo1$1@dont-email.me> <vhn420$jf6v$3@dont-email.me> <vhpg51$13soc$1@dont-email.me> <vhpnrb$15239$1@dont-email.me> <vhs2gn$1kjtc$1@dont-email.me> <vhs4ue$1ku9t$1@dont-email.me> <vhv6or$280s6$1@dont-email.me> <vhvbjb$28n6o$1@dont-email.me> <vi1dbj$2moon$1@dont-email.me> <vi224l$2pgrd$1@dont-email.me> <vi4383$3csd4$2@dont-email.me> <vi4a6c$3dt4s$2@dont-email.me> <vi6p1l$3uoti$1@dont-email.me> <vi6unr$3v0dn$5@dont-email.me> <vihd3l$2d9fk$1@dont-email.me> <vihfai$2cnof$1@dont-email.me> <vijrru$37ce1$1@dont-email.me> <vikh9k$3cua3$1@dont-email.me> <viml28$6j3$1@dont-email.me> <0b1bb1a1-40e3-464f-9e3d-a5ac22dfdc6f@tha.de> <95183b4d9c2e32651963bac79965313ad2bfe7e8@i2pn2.org> <vj6vhh$elqh$2@dont-email.me> <33512b63716ac263c16b7d64cd1d77578c8aea9d@i2pn2.org> <vj9s4i$11a3p$1@dont-email.me> <62d0f2153c21d03dd687f611484b4a6dc91e00d5@i2pn2.org> <vjf6im$2s04r$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:03:52 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b813437e7e36d641655e1eddc9d0fc02"; logging-data="3106121"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX188E3o1GSxGuVMh/OlKvCNgxq6BOnHIFSc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mRNCAI1oxP9SSpNalgdwQ9Mt2ws= In-Reply-To: <vjf6im$2s04r$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2859 On 12.12.2024 18:29, Jeff Barnett wrote: > On 12/12/2024 6:59 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Tue, 10 Dec 2024 18:01:04 +0100 schrieb WM: >>> On 10.12.2024 13:19, Richard Damon wrote: >>> >>>> The pairing is between TWO sets, not the members of a set with itself. >>> >>> The pairing is between the elements. Otherwise you could pair R and Q by >>> simply claiming it. >>> "The infinite sequence thus defined has the peculiar property to contain >>> the positive rational numbers completely, and each of them only once at >>> a determined place." [Cantor] Note the numbers, not the set. >> What Richard meant: do not confuse the set being mapped with the one >> being >> mapped onto. > > But that's sort of what mappings are for! Aren't they? Dedekind maps the elements of a subset to the elements of its superset. Same do I. Regards, WM