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From: "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Win11 explorer bug?
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:44:24 -0500
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"Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message news:vjg5m0$327bf$2@dont-email.me...
> On 12/12/2024 6:31 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>> "Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message news:vjg0hu$310fn$2@dont-email.me...
>>> On 12/12/2024 4:50 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>>> "Don Y" <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote in message news:vjfobk$2vgfa$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 12/12/2024 2:31 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
>>> Once you are inside a perimeter defense, you can poke at machines
>>> at your leisure and accumulate results, sharing them with your
>>> external "accomplice" as need be for further refinement and instruction.
>>>
>>> Imagine Joe Super Hacker having a network drop in your spare
>>> bedroom.  Do you KNOW hat he is there?  Can you anticipate EVERYTHING
>>> that he will attempt?  Can you lock down the data that he steals before
>>> it gets out past your firewall?
>>>
>>> [If so, then why do so many "professional organizations" have problems
>>> doing this?]
>>
>> One reason might be because the organization does not employ anyone whose job it is to watch the firewall logs (using log 
>> analysis
>> scripts as needed) in such a way that they can get familiar with what is usual and detect anything unusual.
>> Let's take a hospital with myriad networked devices on various networks.
>> Is anyone watching what goes in and out of the firewall like the security people are watching cameras and people activity?
>> Or has the IT equipment and firewalls etc been installed and left to run without any monitoring?
>
> Organizations (like hospitals) typically have SCORES of IT folks.
> In addition to out-sourced "specialists".
>
> Banks and other groups with obvious financial exposure to such
> losses likely considerably more.  Governments?  Firms involved
> with that sort of technology?

So some of them are obviously doing much better than others.

I got an error (441 I think) trying to reply to your other 9:17 PM post so I'm going to leave it there.

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