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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
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Subject: Re: systemd (Subject line fixed as a public service)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:43:48 -0000 (UTC)
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On 13 Dec 2024 07:46:59 GMT, Nicolas George wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro , dans le message <vjg88j$36h24$5@dont-email.me>, a
>  écrit :
>
>> Oracle tried that sort of thing, with the Open Source projects it
>> inherited from Sun. Remember what happened? The contributors left
>> wholesale to set up a fork. And the forks ended up doing better than
>> the originals.
>> 
>> So no, it pays not to antagonize the Open Source community. They have
>> long memories.
> 
> Your example proves that it does not always work.
> 
> Your example does not prove that it never works.
> 
> We have an example proving that its it working at least once.

No, we have no such example. We have merely your claims about Red Hat 
motives, which are not borne out by any independent evidence.

For one example, the discussions within Debian over adoption of systemd 
are a matter of public record. For another, the decision by Mark 
Shuttleworth to abandon upstart in Ubuntu and adopt systemd is also a 
matter of public record. Go and see if you can find any “pressure” that 
Red Hat might have exerted on either of them; you won’t.