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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: Don't Fall for the Fiction on Firearm Suppressors Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 07:28:40 -0800 Organization: Horseshoe Road Inn Lines: 86 Message-ID: <vjhju0$3g18l$3@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:30:10 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e8b70f08e611bc5d2189f0a251afe329"; logging-data="3671317"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX198IEu4EimyDDr88DsFbyWY4vux0o12UKk=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:cfpUtALUZISutheru/SgjltaLDs= X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Bytes: 5733 Don't Fall for the Fiction on Firearm Suppressors Owen Miller It comes as no surprise that in the aftermath of the tragic murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, there is significant misinformation circulating via social media that could undermine the rights of millions of law-abiding citizens. The assailant apparently used a homemade, 3-D printed gun and 3-D printed sound reducing accessory known as a suppressor - some call the device a silencer. If true, the criminal faces serious charges for his actions. Under federal law, it is illegal to manufacturer a suppression device without properly registering it with ATF. Doing so carries a possible 10-year sentence and a $250,000 fine. Using a suppressor in the commission of a crime is also a federal offense and carries a mandatory 30-year prison term. It is also important to understand that no device will ever make a gun completely silent. Guns are simply too loud. At least one person close to Mr. Thompson at the time of the crime reported hearing the assailant's gunshots. Suppressors do not cancel out the sound of a firearm as some activists would wrongly have you believe. Rather, these legal firearm accessories only reduce the sound of a gunshot. Even the most effective suppressors reduce the peak sound level of a gunshot to around 110 - 120 decibels. To put that in perspective, that is as loud as a jackhammer (110 dB) or an ambulance siren (120 dB) according to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH). The National Hearing Conservation Association (NHCA) wrote a letter in 2019 outlining their support for suppressors as a tool to help curb preventable hearing damage: "Although firearm suppressors do not completely eliminate the risk of [noise-induced hearing loss] from firearm noise, the risk can be significantly reduced.Therefore, NHCA supports the use of firearm noise suppressors as a form of an engineering noise control to reduce hazardous firearm noise exposures." The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was commissioned in 2011 to assess the level of noise exposure for federal government agents at an outdoor shooting range. The scientists assigned to the study concluded: "...the only potentially effective noise control method to reduce students' or instructors' noise exposure from gunfire is through the use of noise suppressors that can be attached to the end of the gun barrel." Today, there are nearly four million lawfully obtained suppressors in circulation and their use has bipartisan support. In 2013, Montana Governor Steve Bullock (D) held the misconception that suppressors could completely silence firearms, but once he became properly educated on the issue, he reversed course and urged the Montana legislature to legalize their use for hunting: "Suppressors mitigate the sound of a shot, but do not silence it. The use of suppressors for hunting, when hunters cannot wear ear protection because they need to be aware of their surroundings, can help protect against hearing loss. This is especially true for our younger hunters, even those who are not actually hunting but are accompanying their parent in the field." Gov. Bullock's change of opinion was not ideological, it was educational. And the use of suppressors by criminals is virtually nonexistent. Ronald Turk, a former Associate Deputy Director and Chief Operating Officer of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), stated: "...silencers are very rarely used in criminal shootings. Given the lack of criminality associated with silencers, it is reasonable to conclude that they should not be viewed as a threat to public safety." Furthermore, using a suppressor in the commission of a crime will carry stiff State and Federal penalties. At the Federal level, using a suppressor in the commission of a crime carries a 30-year mandatory prison sentence. Very few laws are more punitive than this. Suppressors are legally used by millions of hunters and shooting enthusiasts who rely on these safety devices for much needed hearing protection. Spreading misinformation or engaging in scare tactics in the wake of this high-profile crime will do nothing to address the issue of curbing violence in New York City or elsewhere else in America. This recent tragedy cannot be used to erode the constitutional rights of millions of law-abiding citizens to own and use their firearms with the safety features of their choice. Owen Miller is Vice President of the American Suppressor Association https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2024/12/12/dont_fall_for_the_fiction_on_firearm_suppressors_1078184.html