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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Battery (SLA) modeling Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:10:53 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vjhpr7$3h418$2@dont-email.me> References: <vjgltr$394qj$1@dont-email.me> <1r4ih4v.151b2dlgylpneN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vjho77$3gs9k$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:11:03 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="00f08a375bca5e0fb2fe68936c34f7cb"; logging-data="3706920"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Z0o1DgaC83qPEeOB3cfWR" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:hAp0Kgh8aP6kpkCKvXdRet9XZRk= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vjho77$3gs9k$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2143 On 12/13/2024 9:43 AM, Martin Brown wrote: > I love the way they swell up spectacularly inside certain brands of UPS making > them almost impossible to remove. Cruel environment for any SLA. I'm of two minds on that. One, you can argue that you want the battery to be returned to a full SoC as quickly as possible as a second "outage" could follow a previous one and the UPS would then fail to provide much carryover time. Two, the UPS vendors want to sell more batteries! OTOH, UPSs seem to be treated as consumables; folks seem to just discard the whole unit when the battery needs replacing (because they likely contact the vendor for the replacement battery and cringe at the price!). "Hell, we haven't really NEEDED it much for the past few years... why don't we just try living without it?" I wonder what the replacement interval is for the flooded cells they use (used?) in emergency lighting? (modern versions seem to have taken a different -- replaceable? -- route)