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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Who Knows Hardware? Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:03:29 -0600 Organization: Modern Human Message-ID: <vji3uh$178v3$1@solani.org> References: <18107773bf7e2ff8$26525$296518$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <pan$9a3ce$f6ce9f97$4bca267f$7bcd7fca@linux.rocks> <vjg8uf$q2uu$1@solani.org> <1810bb1b7055e933$22753$217357$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 20:03:29 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1287139"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:wh0Y42rhcs5+SSv2r0zROcERIlI= X-User-ID: eJwNycEBwCAIA8CVAgLKOCJk/xHa+56vkHjbwsOczgHJy2pkJUryyFVrMNCnrJfyFEole574m8EfLYJ1t3Z8fTkWNA== In-Reply-To: <1810bb1b7055e933$22753$217357$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3825 Lines: 81 On 12/13/24 6:06 AM, Farley Flud wrote: > On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:16:31 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote: > >> >> I have faith in Linux, that it can ruin Microsoft's Windows business. >> That keeps me here. >> >> But.. your way of approaching Linux will never do it of course. Somebody >> needs to create a flavor of Linux on which installing new programs are >> as simple as doing it on smartphones. >> > > In that case, you are not referring to COMPUTERS; you are referring to > APPLIANCES. > > An appliance is a simple device that is strictly limited to a well defined, > small set of capabilities and nothing more. > > A computer, in stark contrast, is an extremely complicated machine that > does nothing but that has the potential to do anything. > > No two computing machines are exactly alike because of the huge number > of different hardware and configuration possibilities. As a consequence > it becomes difficult, if not impossible, for any software package to > accommodate all systems all the time. > > Any computer must be intensively managed. There is no way to avoid that > basic fact. > > A lot of GNU/Linux distros attempt to remove the user from the management > loop but the end result is always more of an appliance rather than a > computer. > > For me, half the enjoyment of using GNU/Linux is the intensive > managementthat that is required, and if performed successfully such > management provides a truly powerful computing system and not a cheap > appliance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for such linux >> products for desktops. If I find one, I'll never say anything else here >> but describing that product :) >> >> Then every one of you, including you, Flud, will become faithful user of >> it for the rest of your lives. > > > > > Linux is not a computer. And if the computer cpu's are too varied these days to accomodate the linux that I want (which I doubt they're that varied) then the team that creates the Linux should also create and design the cpu for delivering such capabilities. I've discussed this before here. 85 years have passed and you disoriented easily bought people have not been able to create standards for CPUs which leave OS _and_ computer programs free of limitations they have for a particular CPU or OS. I don't have restrictions in my mind that in YOUR mind are Gods of this fucking universe. I'm not a computer scientist buried under limitations that Al Capones of this country and this community have placed on it. I'm talking common sense. Common to Modern Humans :)