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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Battery (SLA) modeling Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:20:22 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vjiffm$3kqe4$1@news.eternal-september.org> References: <vjgltr$394qj$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 00:20:22 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: news.eternal-september.org; posting-host="fcd965cc3ddc1797ebfcbef1f4a87660"; logging-data="3828164"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+IXgs0tfEWA1xt9OCwuLkO" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:TljpbHPIih0/885UKdWfjT/p4Ys= In-Reply-To: <vjgltr$394qj$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 1949 On 12/13/2024 1:57 AM, Don Y wrote: > At a fixed time and temperature, is it safe to model a battery as a > fixed voltage source behind a series resistance? Possibly, additionally, > a parallel RC to cover transients? > > In particular, does the model need to change based on whether the > battery is being charged or discharged? (i.e., to estimate that > series resistance) > For what value of "safe"? Probably better, in general, to use manufacturer's discharge curve, at least as a starting point. If your application differs appreciably from the test conditions in the manufacturers specs, you need to test it yourself, again depending on what you have in mind by "safe". It's better to design the system to accommodate the battery at its best and worst SOC/capacity levels. Also the age of the battery and how it has been treated over that age is a factor, so take that into account too. Ed