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From: "Jerry T." <jerryt@invalid.com>
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Subject: Re: Don't Fall for the Fiction on Firearm Suppressors
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 06:56:20 -0000 (UTC)
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On 13 Dec 2024, Klaus  Schadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> posted some
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> [Default]  "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> typed:
> 
>>Don't Fall for the Fiction on Firearm Suppressors
>>
>>Owen Miller
>>
>>It comes as no surprise that in the aftermath of the tragic murder of
>>United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, there is significant
>>misinformation circulating via social media that could undermine the
>>rights of millions of law-abiding citizens.
>>
>> The assailant apparently used a homemade, 3-D printed gun and 3-D
>> printed sound 
>>reducing accessory known as a suppressor - some call the device a
>>silencer. If true, the criminal faces serious charges for his actions.
>>Under federal law, it is illegal to manufacturer a suppression device
>>without properly registering it with ATF. Doing so carries a possible
>>10-year sentence and a $250,000 fine. Using a suppressor in the
>>commission of a crime is also a federal offense and carries a
>>mandatory 30-year prison term. 
>>
>>It is also important to understand that no device will ever make a gun
>>completely silent. Guns are simply too loud. At least one person close
>>to Mr. Thompson at the time of the crime reported hearing the
>>assailant's gunshots. Suppressors do not cancel out the sound of a
>>firearm as some activists would wrongly have you believe. Rather,
>>these legal firearm accessories only reduce the sound of a gunshot.
>>
>>Even the most effective suppressors reduce the peak sound level of a
>>gunshot to around 110 - 120 decibels. To put that in perspective, that
>>is as loud as a jackhammer (110 dB) or an ambulance siren (120 dB)
>>according to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health
>>(NIOSH). 
>>
>>The National Hearing Conservation Association (NHCA) wrote a letter in
>>2019 outlining their support for suppressors as a tool to help curb
>>preventable hearing damage:
>>
>>"Although firearm suppressors do not completely eliminate the risk of
>>[noise-induced hearing loss] from firearm noise, the risk can be
>>significantly reduced.Therefore, NHCA supports the use of firearm
>>noise suppressors as a form of an engineering noise control to reduce
>>hazardous firearm noise exposures." 
>>
>>The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was commissioned
>>in 2011 to assess the level of noise exposure for federal government
>>agents at an outdoor shooting range. The scientists assigned to the
>>study concluded: 
>>
>>"...the only potentially effective noise control method to reduce
>>students' or instructors' noise exposure from gunfire is through the
>>use of noise suppressors that can be attached to the end of the gun
>>barrel." 
>>
>>Today, there are nearly four million lawfully obtained suppressors in
>>circulation and their use has bipartisan support. In 2013, Montana
>>Governor Steve Bullock (D) held the misconception that suppressors
>>could completely silence firearms, but once he became properly
>>educated on the issue, he reversed course and urged the Montana
>>legislature to legalize their use for hunting: 
>>
>>"Suppressors mitigate the sound of a shot, but do not silence it. The
>>use of suppressors for hunting, when hunters cannot wear ear
>>protection because they need to be aware of their surroundings, can
>>help protect against hearing loss. This is especially true for our
>>younger hunters, even those who are not actually hunting but are
>>accompanying their parent in the field." 
>>
>>Gov. Bullock's change of opinion was not ideological, it was
>>educational. 
>>
>>And the use of suppressors by criminals is virtually nonexistent.
>>Ronald Turk, a former Associate Deputy Director and Chief Operating
>>Officer of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
>>(ATF), stated: 
>>
>>"...silencers are very rarely used in criminal shootings. Given the
>>lack of criminality associated with silencers, it is reasonable to
>>conclude that they should not be viewed as a threat to public safety."
>>
>>Furthermore, using a suppressor in the commission of a crime will
>>carry stiff State and Federal penalties. At the Federal level, using a
>>suppressor in the commission of a crime carries a 30-year mandatory
>>prison sentence. Very few laws are more punitive than this.
>>
>>Suppressors are legally used by millions of hunters and shooting
>>enthusiasts who rely on these safety devices for much needed hearing
>>protection. Spreading misinformation or engaging in scare tactics in
>>the wake of this high-profile crime will do nothing to address the
>>issue of curbing violence in New York City or elsewhere else in
>>America. This recent tragedy cannot be used to erode the 
>>constitutional rights of millions of law-abiding citizens to own and
>>use their firearms with the safety features of their choice.
>>
>>Owen Miller is Vice President of the American Suppressor Association
>>
>>https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2024/12/12/dont_fall_for_the_f
>>iction_on_firearm_suppressors_1078184.html 
>>
> 
> I should also like to draw attention to
> https://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/
> Sportsman Gun Center, the United Kingdom's largest gun store.
> 
> They boast an extensive selection of suppressors at fairly decent
> prices.
> https://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/guns-and-moderators/moderators/cen
> trefire-moderators 
> https://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/guns-and-moderators/moderators/rim
> fire-moderators 

Check out the suppressor in Texas at 0:10.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1JwmdDndyAw