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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi Subject: Re: Homebrew pi400 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 13:56:15 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 54 Message-ID: <vjk2pv$nd7$8@dont-email.me> References: <87v7wgw3sh.fsf@rpi3> <87v7vr40jj.fsf@rpi3> <vjalsu$t70o$1@dont-email.me> <lrt4p1Fbu46U2@mid.individual.net> <87msh243xg.fsf@rpi3> <lrtr8nFf5hkU1@mid.individual.net> <87wmg6qi9o.fsf@rpi3> <vjcg53$1k27r$6@dont-email.me> <34s*FvN1z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <14s*RDN1z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <87wmg32l63.fsf@rpi3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 14:56:15 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="63747a19b95c63ec9864040b731c8f1c"; logging-data="23975"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+gf84YGq8fByGDI8vg1bQpdxFmYkjBOKc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:nHAISeDZVv0IOORfQvA91s6jODM= In-Reply-To: <87wmg32l63.fsf@rpi3> Content-Language: en-GB On 13/12/2024 23:55, Daniel wrote: > Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > >> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: >>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 11/12/2024 16:46, Daniel wrote: >>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> Daniel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jeff did a teardown on his second channel and soldered a m.2 socket >>>>>>> hoping it was properly designed. He found the power lines weren't traced >>>>>>> in so no power. >>>>>> >>>>>> There were some nearby component missing too, maybe the Rev1 board has >>>>>> bugs, and they need a Rev2 (or whatever) but his soldering job looked >>>>>> relatively clumsy (bridged pins etc). >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, it was pretty bad, at least he was honest about it. >>>>> >>>>> I am sure things were missing to keep the circuitry disabled and I'm no >>>>> engineer. >>>> >>>> Why would you put support chips on if you were not going to install an >>>> M.2 socket anyway? >>>> >>>> I think he called it right in that this is a bare bones model, and more >>>> upmarket versions will emerge in due course. >>> >>> Looking at: >>> https://www.jeffgeerling.com/sites/default/files/images/pi-500-m2-socket-install.jpg >>> https://www.jeffgeerling.com/sites/default/files/images/pi-500-pcb-bottom.jpeg >>> >>> I think there's a MOSFET and some decoupling capacitors missing (to the left >>> of the middle larger hole), so the power isn't connected. There may be a >>> pair of missing capacitors in series with the PCIe lane, but I can't >>> immediately see the footprints for those. >> >> Ah, I see them now. To the right of the spot on the silver chip are four >> tiny spots for passives, oriented at compass bearing 135 degrees. I can't >> tell from the photo or video whether they're populated or not, but those >> will be the series capacitors. >> >> Theo > > I'm going to wait for someone to hack a working solution then copy > it. Wait for the Pi 501...with it all one the board already -- Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend. "Saki"