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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: [OT] Murder in New York Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 13:19:09 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vjl79t$6qs5$2@dont-email.me> References: <ef0975d032abe1b350eed7329d66d0ba@www.novabbs.com> <vjaecu$15b3k$1@dont-email.me> <pan$a2a1c$92b89718$5b815e33$7761f838@cpacker.org> <vjcco5$1jljd$2@dont-email.me> <pan$376f1$37129c51$d18089d5$208c83a5@cpacker.org> <ij4mljl6v4gcvvesj8d74ofshgeeq5tl2b@4ax.com> <vjf4ek$14b1l$1@dont-email.me> <03oolj12e3k7p5me60gmg2ml1l5hvij1ev@4ax.com> <vjjca1$3t41a$1@dont-email.me> <adbrljd67cu23orgpqndbujs0bqcpg5qir@4ax.com> Reply-To: noone@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 01:19:10 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="245aa895b8983276f97c75999e23619c"; logging-data="224133"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/xJ3xz+iAU5z33hCROuPxw" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xVzhL6inyg5J4PTsoM0r/WsJAnU= In-Reply-To: <adbrljd67cu23orgpqndbujs0bqcpg5qir@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-AU Bytes: 2482 On 15/12/24 05:09, Paul S Person wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:32:17 +1300, Titus G Trump <noone@nowhere.com> > wrote: > >> On 14/12/24 05:30, Paul S Person wrote: snip >>> My solution is simpler: the person at the top is /always/ responsible >>> [1]. Unless he was active in supervising the organization and this was >>> hidden from him. >>> >>> [1] This is a common trope, whether by Pres Truman ("The buck stops >>> here", pointing to his desk or perhaps the Oval Office) to Star Trek >>> VI, where Kirk agrees that, as Captain, he is responsible for what >>> happened. So why does the buck /not/ stop at the top dog in these >>> cases? >> >> Perhaps because one is fiction with a message and the other is reality? > > Truman isn't fiction. He certainly accepted responsibility for use of atomic bombing of Japan. I do not know of his record of other matters. The buck does stop "in these cases", but nowadays it stops in the top dogs' bank accounts. Didn't Truman also become somewhat rich as President?