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Subject: Re: Why MacOS is not a "fun" Unix to work with
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 21:43:28 -0500
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On 12/14/24 9:14 PM, vallor wrote:
> # time -p tmutil latestbackup
> tmutil: latestbackup requires Full Disk Access privileges.
> To allow this operation, select Full Disk Access in the Privacy
> tab of the Security & Privacy preference pane, and add Terminal
> to the list of applications which are allowed Full Disk Access.
> real 59.67
> user 0.00
> sys 0.00
>   _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> 
> So it takes almost a full minute to give an "access denied"?

Something's wrong with your system; just a few seconds req'd:

Same error my first time too (& just a few seconds to respond):

admin$ time -p tmutil latestbackup
tmutil: latestbackup requires Full Disk Access privileges.
To allow this operation, select Full Disk Access in the Privacy
tab of the Security & Privacy preference pane, and add Terminal
to the list of applications which are allowed Full Disk Access.
real 0.05
user 0.00
sys 0.00


> Also, I already added Terminal to the list.  MacOS wants something else.

One does have to relaunch Terminal, as the instructions say:

admin$ time -p tmutil latestbackup
/Volumes/.timemachine/5C733EB8-AEBA-483A-A71C-DCB2E40562FD/2024-12-14-211509.backup/2024-12-14-211509.backup
real 0.36
user 0.00
sys 0.01

> I can run the command from the Terminal on the console, but not via ssh. 
> In the "Full Disk Access" application list, there's a "+" to add another
> application.  Clicking that gives a file dialog, but there is no way
> to point it at /usr/sbin/sshd.

Seems that that's a deliberate choice.

> Linux wouldn't do this to me.

Of course it wouldn't.

> To check Time Machine status, I have to vnc in to the console -- where the
> frame rate at login goes into the dirt, because Sequoia has a lovely moving
> background on the login screen.
> 
> Honestly, I don't think these kids can steer...

Or just sit at the physical machine like most folks do.  From there, 
{Finder/System Settings/General/Time Machine} gets you to the data of 
the last backups to each attached TM target, plus also the first.

-hh