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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 12:25:26 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vjmeb5$hk44$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vgiet5$2l5ni$1@dont-email.me> <vgl2hj$3794c$1@dont-email.me> <vgleau$bi0i$2@solani.org> <vgnq3i$3qgfe$1@dont-email.me> <vgoka6$3vg2p$1@dont-email.me> <vgq1cm$b5vj$1@dont-email.me> <vgq3ca$beif$1@dont-email.me> <vgsp1c$v1ss$1@dont-email.me> <vgsq2v$v5t1$1@dont-email.me> <vgvm6h$1k8co$1@dont-email.me> <vgvmvr$1kc5f$1@dont-email.me> <vh1vlb$25kic$1@dont-email.me> <vh2j89$29gco$1@dont-email.me> <vh4f7p$2o5hn$1@dont-email.me> <vh4job$2ov2c$1@dont-email.me> <vh78jp$3cbq7$1@dont-email.me> <vh7d5c$3cpaf$1@dont-email.me> <vh9o5u$3un1v$1@dont-email.me> <vhasiv$59e5$1@dont-email.me> <vhcb2r$i5se$1@dont-email.me> <vhcgic$hge9$1@dont-email.me> <vhcngu$kmv2$1@dont-email.me> <35274130-ffa0-4d11-b634-f2feb3851416@tha.de> <vhf33f$16f4o$1@dont-email.me> <f7fab959-0408-49c1-8e1c-d93e389e3021@tha.de> <vhhlvf$1p6v4$1@dont-email.me> <vhhrb7$1q0r9$2@dont-email.me> <vjjgbq$3u217$1@dont-email.me> <vjjh1u$3tvsg$3@dont-email.me> <vjmcl4$hnmr$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 12:25:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0e0cca317dba7248b255a950f9722a2d"; logging-data="577668"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+KFzij+QWwlHa/3kQD+4hqrG9YhlaART4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:96TmS7mIAlcm1xAthtgvZhf9suY= In-Reply-To: <vjmcl4$hnmr$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3070 On 15.12.2024 11:56, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-12-14 08:53:19 +0000, WM said: >> Please refer to the simplest example I gave you on 2024-11-27: >> The possibility of a bijection between the sets ℕ = {1, 2, 3, ...} and >> D = {10n | n ∈ ℕ} is contradicted because for every interval (0, n] >> the relative covering is not more than 1/10, and there are no further >> numbers 10n beyond all natural numbers n. > > It is already proven that there is such bijection. What is proven cannot > be contradicted unless you can prove that 1 = 2. What is proven under false (self-contradictory) premises can be shown to be false. Here we have a limit of 1/10 from analysis and a limit of 0 from set theory. That shows that if set theory is right, we have 1/10 = 0 ==> 1 = 0 ==> 2 = 1. > >> The sequence 1/10, 1/10, 1/10, ... has limit 1/10. > > Irrelevant as the proof of the exitence of the bijection does not > mention that sequence. But the disproof of the bijection does. There is no reason to forbid that sequence. Regards, WM >