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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=E2=80=9CJK_Rowling_Details_Cost_Of_Speaking_Out_On?= =?UTF-8?Q?_Trans_Issue=2C_Blasts_NYT_=E2=80=98Rewriting_Of_History=E2=80=99?= =?UTF-8?B?4oCd?= Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 02:51:18 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vjo4j4$rc4i$1@dont-email.me> References: <vil7ra$3iq0s$1@dont-email.me> <a1dukjdjro14sgc168ctunthssc0rbnu05@4ax.com> <viod4c$qf4$1@panix2.panix.com> <vjl96f$7g2o$3@dont-email.me> <5h0ulj5uh13b7itqm8mplm77gl6dugj04j@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 03:51:16 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="760c365e1408fef22db50c06b9d135ef"; logging-data="897170"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19jOgK7coNBM/rD/J0LJ/0PD+HpUwOM5DI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ucq7mGGnVnJ6N8ky/cJzyRYxT6Y= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <5h0ulj5uh13b7itqm8mplm77gl6dugj04j@4ax.com> Bytes: 2862 On 15/12/2024 16:26, Paul S Person wrote: > On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:51:27 +0000, Robert Carnegie > <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 04/12/2024 02:00, Scott Dorsey wrote: >>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> What is strange is that the obvious solution -- four teams/leagues >>>> instead of two -- does not appear to have occurred to anyone. >>> >>> Or just one for all genders. >>> --scott >> >> Are we talking about sports teams or about >> "debating" gender and transgender issues? >> I thought Paul was referring to the latter. > > I was, and I think the rejoinder is too. > > To be sure, it completely ignores the reason we have boys and girls > teams/leagues/tournaments/awards in the first place. And the reason > Federal Law requires (IIRC) schools receiving Federal Funds to have > girls teams/leagues/tournaments/awards that are provided just as > seriously as the boys' teams/leagues/tournaments/awards are. I'm holding off against accepting "Boys are better and will win all of the time" as the entire reason to separate sports players by sex. Which is not to say that it isn't what happens - depending on the sport. > Note that the Supremes have already ruled that at least one part of > Federal Law concerning "discrimination by sex" /does/ apply to > transgender. IIRC, they were astounded that this wasn't clear to > everybody and that they had to point it out. > > A certain D. Trump will, of course, shortly be reversing all of this. > Or at least trying to do so.