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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 10:33:06 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 64 Message-ID: <vjovl1$134en$6@dont-email.me> References: <ls32rcFprp3U1@mid.individual.net> <vjisol$3na5k$2@dont-email.me> <ls4k73Fig06U1@mid.individual.net> <Jxf7P.4523$EYNf.4309@fx11.iad> <vjkatj$28k0$5@dont-email.me> <ZBA7P.2512$WVI1.852@fx43.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 11:33:06 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1a11716650b21c6ece7128939a6b7e83"; logging-data="1151447"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18x9uyBoXKoLFZvuPGrt1IV" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6Kk+As+oGj/I4X3m9XF8Dw1Vezk= Bytes: 4109 On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > Le 2024-12-14 à 11:14, RonB a écrit : >> On 2024-12-14, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> Le 2024-12-14 à 00:43, rbowman a écrit : >>>> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:07:11 -0500, DFS wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/13/2024 10:40 AM, vallor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's a lot easier to update Linux than Windows or MacOS. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Maybe, maybe not. >>>>> >>>>> The massive update to Win11 24H2 was a few mouse clicks. Absolutely no >>>>> other user input was required. >>>> >>>> There is a GUI but I prefer command line. >>>> >>>>> sudo dnf update --refreah >>>> >>>> gets the job done. I do have to enter my password. It then tells me which >>>> packages will be updated and their sizes and asks me if I want to >>>> continue. >>>> >>>> I did update two machines to 24H2 this week. I got to play several games >>>> of Mahjong solitaire while checking back 'Downloading 3%', Downloading >>>> 13%' and so forth, and then several mare with 'Installing 5%' etc. At the >>>> end I had to restart. More games, 'Updating you computer..' Finally I was >>>> able to log in. 'Hi! Getting things ready for you' >>>> >>>> I have no idea what was updated although I probably could hunt down the >>>> KB. The good news is it doesn't seem to have broken anything. I did a work >>>> machine that I hardly ever use anymore and a laptop which is solely used >>>> for accessing the corporate VPN so it wasn't a real stress test. >>>> >>>> I suppose some day I'll move to Fedora 41 and Ubuntu 24.2 but if it ain't >>>> broken... >>> >>> Like I just wrote in my previous post, the reason Windows did all that >>> is because it essentially installed a new copy of the operating system >>> on your computer and left the previous version on the disk in case there >>> is a problem so you can revert to it. Linux overwrites, Windows installs >>> anew. If I ran the operating system on a hard disk and had a slow >>> Internet connection, I'd absolutely hate Windows for doing that. Since I >>> don't, I appreciate the new installation which preserves all of my >>> programs and settings yet cleans out any crap I might have amassed on >>> the previous install. >> >> There's no real comparison. The way Windows updates simply sucks. Maybe some >> day Microsoft will figure out how to do it right. But there's reasons why >> Linux can update WITHOUT rebooting and Windows can't. Windows is an inferior >> OS. > > Not all Windows updates require a restart; only the big ones do. To be > fair, many such updates require a restart in Linux too. In the short > time I used a recent version of Fedora, I noticed that it required me to > restart quite a few times. I've installed applications on Windows that required a reboot. And the "big" Windows' updates often require multiple reboots. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien