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Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 12:40:22 -0500
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On 12/16/2024 7:22 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:54:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> George Snuffalapogous had stated Mr. Trump (not President
>>> at that time) had been found guilty of "rape", when, well,
>>> we all know the legal technicalities and definition and
>>> specific legal issues.
>>
>> He did not say "guilty".
>>
>> 	Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of
>> 	that rape by a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge.
>>
>>> The NBC Blue Network will pay $15 million to... his
>>> Presidential library...
>>
>>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-abc-george-stephanopoulos-lawsuit-defamation-b2664508.html
>>
>> I'm not buying what the judge wrote last year that the plaintiff proved
>> "rape" as commonly understood by the public even though no rape had
>> occurred using the legal definition of "rape". The jury was asked to
>> make a specific finding of "rape" and they said no. She still won the
>> case on other points even if not on that point. The judge was wrong to
>> second guess the jury here on the finding they made on a specific set of
>> facts.
>>
>  From your cited article:
> 
> "“Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of that
> rape by a jury,” Stephonopoulos said on ABC’s This Week at the time.
> “It’s been affirmed by a judge.”
> 
> Juries in New York found Trump liable for defaming and sexually
> abusing E Jean Carroll after he repeatedly called her a liar for
> speaking publicly about allegations that he assaulted her in the
> 1990s. Trump has appealed the nearly $90 million in judgments against
> him.
> 
> Last year, the judge overseeing those cases wrote that Carroll’s
> failure to “prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New
> York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr Trump
> ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’”
> 
> “Indeed, as the evidence at trial ... makes clear, the jury found that
> Mr Trump in fact did exactly that,” US District Judge Lewis Kaplan
> wrote."
> 
> Honestly Trump has a case against the judge as well.

What redeeming aspect of Trump's character did George falsely besmirch?