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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:22:04 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: <vjrcbb$1l8iu$7@dont-email.me> References: <ls32rcFprp3U1@mid.individual.net> <vjisol$3na5k$2@dont-email.me> <ukf7P.148$h3%7.123@fx02.iad> <vjkbaf$28k0$6@dont-email.me> <kEA7P.2513$WVI1.746@fx43.iad> <vjovsd$134en$7@dont-email.me> <JcY7P.71533$oR74.13919@fx16.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 09:22:04 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="16311eac48d3bad1d619286be0a0b5db"; logging-data="1745502"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+SEvbKiTXltUdk+jUroJ2M" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ey/73dq3Wdb2AZQkVP/O4Vhms9E= Bytes: 4272 On 2024-12-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > Le 2024-12-16 à 05:37, RonB a écrit : >> On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> Le 2024-12-14 à 11:21, RonB a écrit : >>>> On 2024-12-14, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> Le 2024-12-13 à 22:07, DFS a écrit : >>>>>> On 12/13/2024 10:40 AM, vallor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's a lot easier to update Linux than Windows or MacOS. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe, maybe not. >>>>>> >>>>>> The massive update to Win11 24H2 was a few mouse clicks. Absolutely no >>>>>> other user input was required. >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I would challenge Scotty the Hutt's accessment there. If you >>>>> update daily, Linux is vastly superior to Windows in that area. However, >>>>> if you're like my wife and reject updates months at a time, there is a >>>>> great chance that you will damage your operating system the moment you >>>>> decide to go through with them on the Linux side. Windows is generally >>>>> better with seldom-used machines. >>>> >>>> I'll challenge that statement. I know better. I've updated many Linux >>>> machines after months of not turning them on. Even "ancient" computers from >>>> pre-2010 update quickly and cleanly when using Linux and fast Internet. >>>> >>>> As I've mentioned before (several times) this assumes you're using a >>>> business machine with an Intel GPU. I have read about (not personally >>>> experienced) issues with Nvidia GPUs and Linux upgrades. But I've also seen >>>> upgrades cause BSODs in my wife's laptop that used a Nvidia (I always just >>>> disabled the Nvidia GPU, since it also had an Intel GPU) — so I'm putting >>>> some of that on Nvidia. >>> >>> That's pretty fair. I think that most people who face issues in Linux >>> are going to be the ones using an NVIDIA GPU. Unfortunately, that's the >>> default for a machine capable of producing enough teraflops to play >>> today's game. You can get AMD-equipped machines, but they're generally >>> mid-range. I know that the version of this laptop produced a year after >>> this one released had all its internals made by AMD, but it apparently >>> suffered disgusting heating issues as a result. I imagine it was >>> fantastic under Linux though. >> >> I don't play Windows video games, so I'll take your word for it. It's odd, >> though, that more gaming laptops wouldn't use Ryzen CPUs and AMD GPUs — >> which seem to be the preference in gaming desktops. Maybe they use too much >> power for laptops? > > AMD CPUs offer excellent performance while they're plugged in, but run > rather underwhelmingly the moment they are forced to rely on the > battery. Intel is better in that regard. There are tons of laptops using > AMD CPUs though. However, even then, they tend to use NVIDIA GPUs. That makes sense. As I mentioned in another thread, I purposely look for lower-powered machines. Mostly because I don't like the sound of fans (and I don't need high powered ones). -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien