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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Intel's co-CEO claims retailers say Qualcomm-powered PCs have high return rates, points to new competitors with Arm chips coming in 2025 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 20:45:46 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vjsntp$1sthq$3@dont-email.me> References: <hikplj9384rou0rmr2f8c6pmr0e09pcsi5@4ax.com> <ls42suFfeshU4@mid.individual.net> <ndmpljh9c3nljm6qltc2kelgs06u4f94ng@4ax.com> <4gf7P.5896$Uup4.1220@fx10.iad> <vjl032$68i1$1@dont-email.me> <D7B7P.4494$G93a.1375@fx05.iad> <vjovbt$134en$3@dont-email.me> <F9Y7P.71531$oR74.43492@fx16.iad> <vjrbu5$1l8iu$4@dont-email.me> <Osf8P.12968$DPl.12220@fx13.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:45:58 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="16311eac48d3bad1d619286be0a0b5db"; logging-data="1996346"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+yMzAvRNnCbDFtgth9Thas" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dAB024B62LcRnSwWM1QYPKwXzA0= Bytes: 4413 On 2024-12-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > Le 2024-12-17 à 03:15, RonB a écrit : >> On 2024-12-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> Le 2024-12-16 à 05:28, RonB a écrit : >>>> On 2024-12-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> Le 2024-12-14 à 17:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit : >>>>>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 07:56:30 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Higher performance per watt which leads to lower power use and therefore >>>>>>> improved battery life. Whether Intel and AMD want to admit it or not, >>>>>>> people _do_ want to have a computer which can handle a whole day's work >>>>>>> on a single charge and which won't increase electrical bills. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure. But Windows can never give it to them. >>>>> >>>>> It can and it already does on Snapdragon offerings. >>>> >>>> Apparently only "sort of." >>> >>> Which is part of why I recommended that ARM enthusiasts go to Apple. >>> Only Apple actually follows through on their radical decisions. >>> Microsoft will announce something on Monday, do something half-assed on >>> Tuesday and abandon the project altogether on Wednesday. Their fortune >>> comes from the fact that people are reluctant to move away from x86-64. >>> If and once they do, Microsoft will have a lot of trouble catching up to >>> what Apple is doing. >> >> I get that. But does Apple run these high-end video games that require the >> powerful (watt-gobbling) GPUs? I don't know, these video games hold no >> interest for me. > > There is a community of Apple users getting their Mx machines to run > today's games in the same way Linux users try to get their choice OS to > play them. For what it's worth, it's a lot easier in Linux than it is in > MacOS. A game developed specifically for Macs will run very well on the > hardware because it is indeed a lot more powerful than people realize, > but those titles are very few and are likely to remain so. For me Macs are too limited. But I actually got Trelby (a 2012 screenwriting application with recent updates) to work on my MacBook Air last week. Trelby is based on Python. What took forever, though, was getting Brew and Python installed on the old Mac (2015). As for Mac OS's "normal" mode, I just don't like it all. I try to exit its terminal by typing "exit" it does exit (sort of), but the window stays there until I close it with the trackpad. But it's still not closed really, it's minimized (even though I chose close, not minimize). I then have to two finger click on the application in the dock, navigate down and tap on "quit" to finally get the damn thing to go away. In Linux I type "exit" — done. I get it that Mac is good at certain things (mostly for integrating with other Apple crap) but I want to use an OS the way I want to use it — not be constrained by an OS that thinks it's your nanny. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien