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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andrew <andys@nospam.com> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: RCS is not more private and secure than texting according to the FBI Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 01:34:18 -0000 (UTC) Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <vjt8qp$arh$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <vjr55k$1cnf1$1@solani.org> <lseg5jF71r1U4@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 01:34:18 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="11121"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.13 Cancel-Lock: sha1:kx+TUJg2cw5U+7wHXeDMQfjCzVQ= sha256:zGXaz9cG/uu80QTX0C9boHWbjHnYC2YqEMhAKzqQc7o= sha1:gXhjXUbh1GSCPrke22fkSxcs8hw= sha256:Dk11PZB896xiLXA71WDUT1ckdr5ORIzKr9D+R4gYeYk= Bytes: 2469 Lines: 30 Arno Welzel wrote on Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:35:16 +0100 : >> This is an advice from the FBI. > > To be more precise: > > The problem is using RCS between Android and Non-Android-Devices since > encryption is not standard for RCS and does not work when you > communicate from Android to iOS or vice versa. > > However Android will show you, if messages to a specific recipient will > be sent using encryption or not. >> Apple and Google could have, and should have, prevented this. Instead, >> Google was worried about tossing barbs at Apple and then taking a >> victory lap even when it didn't really get what it was demanding. > > And Apple did not care, because they have iMessage and just ignore > anything outside their ecosystem. > > On the other hand - messengers with end-to-end-encryption for iOS and > Android exist. It's actually worse than Apple not caring since Apple only tells the truth in court, where the Epic deposition proved beyond any doubt using Apple executives' emails that Apple *never* wanted interoperability with anyone. That's just a fact that Apple never wants interoperability. Luckily, the EU forced Apple's hand. But only so much... as encryption wasn't part of the EU's demands.