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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: People Without Meaningful Lives Seek Power Over Others Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 09:46:41 +0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <vjtcdj1thr83gk3di1pad1og4d8frso9qr@4ax.com> References: <van784$3fmps$3@dont-email.me> <sEIzO.81262$Oqi9.29478@fx16.iad> <vanrf4$3j0ji$3@dont-email.me> <L%NzO.4114$eS_9.1269@fx04.iad> <vaooit$3qjup$2@dont-email.me> <XWnAO.175025$Oqi9.626@fx16.iad> <v154dj1mf1cbimohl06cirrnn96imug6bs@4ax.com> <Y%rAO.149802$jia4.79040@fx18.iad> <gpm4dj9tlf6vl54b32fgg5ahtphg6k6h8o@4ax.com> <0RlBO.3$8bZd.0@fx02.iad> <uesbdjdcpa4ch2qfgchetasv0ltte34lj3@4ax.com> <u6lcdjl76eijqb1sdcf60st0jaos2qt9d6@4ax.com> <o6pcdjd2krkn1e58i3g544264nkuc31puq@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 04:46:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8a0e38f990e47e8c540bf6d798258a0d"; logging-data="3369181"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+EIsDInc7QEz3HG9PVtThknjVKxpoYZqU=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212 Cancel-Lock: sha1:UFaV11T0+w9g9IObN3iOSo5cfVA= Bytes: 2758 On Mon, 02 Sep 2024 19:05:35 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote: >On Tue, 03 Sep 2024 07:20:32 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> >wrote: > >>Not argue but in England, for certain, in the U.S. for perhaps a bit >>less, attending the proper schools and as a result speaking with the >>proper accent was very important. >>In fact I worked with a bloke was spending a large portion of his >>salary to keep his daughter in a very (socially) proper British >>collage. > >Going back a few centuries, their landed aristocracy was very >different from today's commercial aristocracy. For example, they were >not expected to do any form of paying work. Money came from the >possession of land in the form of crops and rents. The disparity >between the wealthy and the poor was sufficiently huge that they >rarely had to think about "earning a living" and other such mundane >activities. Similarly, their son's grew up in the same environment >and rarely needed to think about acquiring skills and getting their >hands dirty. Joining the army, albeit in a good regiment, was proper for a son. I would guess that much of England's empire was won by sons of the aristocracy. For example Nelson joined the navy through the influence of his uncle, Maurice Suckling, a high-ranking naval officer. -- Cheers, John B.