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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rich <rich@example.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ? Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 05:01:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vjtkuq$25l55$1@dont-email.me> References: <Sp-cnSz8UupYQaf6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <vhja4p$23f5e$3@dont-email.me> <lNycnZghasCXPtP6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <w0b7P.64695$oR74.19157@fx16.iad> <vjjljh$3unfq$1@dont-email.me> <vjk9nm$2chi$1@dont-email.me> <vjkae9$1uri$11@dont-email.me> <68b83l-jtd.ln1@ID-313840.user.individual.net> <vjt866$20222$3@dont-email.me> <KSGdnbSzt70r0__6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 06:01:16 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0a4897d36eecd2c0c7c91823a39c9faf"; logging-data="2282661"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1++4hcdJe6MRZQhYZHpjUSw" User-Agent: tin/2.6.1-20211226 ("Convalmore") (Linux/5.15.139 (x86_64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kflEJQ3zpLuPN+gVQJHD0xBAUM8= Bytes: 2690 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > On 12/17/24 8:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:34:30 +0000, Geoff Clare wrote: >> >>> With a pipe or FIFO, you just use simple read and write operations >>> and the system handles all the messy stuff for you. If the pipe >>> reaches capacity, write blocks until there is room to write some >>> more; if the pipe becomes empty, read blocks until there is more >>> data available; when read returns EOF that's the end of the data. >> >> Yup. Furthermore: >> >> * When the last writer closes its end, any remaining read attempts >> get EOF. >> * When the last reader closes its end, any remaining write attempts >> get “broken pipe”. > > But you're still limited to the amount of RAM the system can > access. Not with a pipe or FIFO, which is what is being discussed above. The amount of data you can transfer over a pipe is not in any way limited by system memory size or any other system imposed limits. > These days that's probably a LOT - but might NOT be, > esp for 'embedded' type boards like the older PIs, > BBBs and such. Never assume the user has essentially > infinite RAM. The system will not have infinite RAM. You can transfer infinite data over a pipe (although it will take a while to reach infinity).