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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 12:25:25 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <vjubf7$295ba$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vg7vgh$csek$1@dont-email.me> <vg8911$dvd6$1@dont-email.me> <vjgvpc$3bb3f$1@dont-email.me> <vjh28r$3b6vi$4@dont-email.me> <vjjfmj$3tuuh$1@dont-email.me> <vjjgds$3tvsg$2@dont-email.me> <539edbdf516d69a3f1207687b802be7a86bd3b48@i2pn2.org> <vjk97t$1tms$1@dont-email.me> <vjmc7h$hl7j$1@dont-email.me> <vjmd6c$hn65$2@dont-email.me> <cdf0ae2d3923f3b700a619a16975564d95d38370@i2pn2.org> <vjnaml$n89f$1@dont-email.me> <75dbeab4f71dd695b4513627f185fcb27c2aaad1@i2pn2.org> <vjopub$11n0g$5@dont-email.me> <vjot7b$12rsa$1@dont-email.me> <vjp1fi$13ar5$2@dont-email.me> <vjrt4r$1of0a$1@dont-email.me> <vjsjfg$1sgj9$1@dont-email.me> <vju7eg$28f29$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 12:25:27 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="459270fc4ffaa1dd70d5397fb39cf68a"; logging-data="2397546"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+iQEr/vip3h9PtrQHFrJL9fDBmHDgvQVI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ea9ZXiL/sjQtDYMyul6032kxmTQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vju7eg$28f29$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3228 On 18.12.2024 11:16, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-12-17 19:29:52 +0000, WM said: > >> On 17.12.2024 14:08, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-12-16 11:04:17 +0000, WM said: >>> >>>>> False. Regardless which interval is "the" interval the distance to >>>>> that >>>>> interval is finite and the length of the interval is non-zero so the >>>>> ratio is finite. >>>> >>>> Well, it is finite but huge. Much larger than the interval and >>>> therefore the finite intervals are not dense. >>> >>> They are dense because there are other intervals between the point >>> and the >>> interval. >> >> The distance between intervals (in some location) is finite but much, >> much larger than the finite length of the interval. This distance is >> the distance between intervals which are next to each other. Therefore >> there is nothing in between. > > There is no next interval and therefore no distance to the next interval > as there are always other intervals nearer. Mathematics says the covering by intervals is 3/oo. Therefore the ratio between not covered part and covered part of the positive real axis is oo/3. That implies an average of oo/3 which in some locations must be realized. That proves the existence of distances between next intervals much larger than the finite lengths of the intervals. It excludes density of intervals. > > You haven't prove your claim and can't prove so it is just an unujustified > opnion. Above a mathematician can find a sober mathematical derivation. Regards, WM