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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:38:39 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vk0t3f$2qo25$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vg7vgh$csek$1@dont-email.me> <vg8911$dvd6$1@dont-email.me> <vjgvpc$3bb3f$1@dont-email.me> <vjh28r$3b6vi$4@dont-email.me> <vjjfmj$3tuuh$1@dont-email.me> <vjjgds$3tvsg$2@dont-email.me> <539edbdf516d69a3f1207687b802be7a86bd3b48@i2pn2.org> <vjk97t$1tms$1@dont-email.me> <vjmc7h$hl7j$1@dont-email.me> <vjmd6c$hn65$2@dont-email.me> <cdf0ae2d3923f3b700a619a16975564d95d38370@i2pn2.org> <vjnaml$n89f$1@dont-email.me> <75dbeab4f71dd695b4513627f185fcb27c2aaad1@i2pn2.org> <vjopub$11n0g$5@dont-email.me> <vjot7b$12rsa$1@dont-email.me> <vjp1fi$13ar5$2@dont-email.me> <vjrt4r$1of0a$1@dont-email.me> <vjsjfg$1sgj9$1@dont-email.me> <vju7eg$28f29$1@dont-email.me> <vjubf7$295ba$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:38:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3cfcbebfe54daa0abad9712c29712210"; logging-data="2973765"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ndPfteT19lZu9EZNw7HPv" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:7vnYD5Gg3mG3zqzUnSN8/Ik0yYs= Bytes: 3179 On 2024-12-18 11:25:25 +0000, WM said: > On 18.12.2024 11:16, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-12-17 19:29:52 +0000, WM said: >> >>> On 17.12.2024 14:08, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-16 11:04:17 +0000, WM said: >>>> >>>>>> False. Regardless which interval is "the" interval the distance to that >>>>>> interval is finite and the length of the interval is non-zero so the >>>>>> ratio is finite. >>>>> >>>>> Well, it is finite but huge. Much larger than the interval and >>>>> therefore the finite intervals are not dense. >>>> >>>> They are dense because there are other intervals between the point and the >>>> interval. >>> >>> The distance between intervals (in some location) is finite but much, >>> much larger than the finite length of the interval. This distance is >>> the distance between intervals which are next to each other. Therefore >>> there is nothing in between. >> >> There is no next interval and therefore no distance to the next interval >> as there are always other intervals nearer. > > Mathematics says the covering by intervals is 3/oo. Therefore the ratio > between not covered part and covered part of the positive real axis is > oo/3. That implies an average of oo/3 which in some locations must be > realized. Yes. > That proves the existence of distances between next intervals much > larger than the finite lengths of the intervals. No. There is no next interval because there are thore intervals nearer. > It excludes density of intervals. No, it does not. -- Mikko