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From: "Carol" <cshenk@virginia-beach.com>
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Subject: Re: Tenderizing meat
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 19:00:13 -0000 (UTC)
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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2024-12-19 11:16 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 14:38:18 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2024-12-19 5:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>On 2024-12-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > > > On 2024-12-18 8:40 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What's the problem? Americans know what au jus is. It's
> > > > > > yoose guys  that are confused. This is America - we don't
> > > > > > speak like Canadians, or the Brits, or the Aussies. As we
> > > > > > all know, it is yoose peoples that are totally confused
> > > > > > with words.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually, you do try to speak like the rest of English
> > > > > speakers. You just screw it up.
> > > > 
> > > > Shhh.  Don't tell him that "au jus" is French.   He's on a roll.
> > > > 
> > > I have to ask... if you go to a restaurant and order their roast
> > > beef with gravy and there is not enough of that brown coloured
> > > sauce do you ask for "more gravy" or "more with gravy"?
> > 
> > I either say gravy, extra gravy, or gravy over everything when
> > ordering.
> 
> Of course, so why would people ask for more "with jus"?
> 
> 
> > Da Hawaiians invented gravy over everything. I have never thought to
> > request more gravy after I've been served.
> 
> Bullshit. Europeans had been slopping gravy on everything for
> hundreds of years before the stone age people of the pacific had
> metal pots in which to make it.

I was about to say that,  Don's family is mid-western German.  They dod
it too and long before Hawaii got it's first visit outside Polynesians.

> 
> > I'm just not that kind of
> > guy. I also don't like to say "au jus" because that word has a ring
> > of pretentiousness. Da Hawaiians abhors putting on airs like that.
> > 
> 
> I agree that in many cases it is pretentious, but in some cases it is
> appropriate because Jus is not the same as gravy. It is a lot thinner
> than gravy.

Yup.  Au Jus is more related to beef broth than gravy.  I have no use
for it but others do.

> 
> > I also don't ever get into "discussions" of words on rfc because
> > words mean different things in other countries and people should
> > make an effort to learn the ways of other peoples.
> > 
> Yet you jumped in on this one.

David, yopu are always in on 'words'.