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On 12/20/2024 9:27 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> UL labels? Sure we can print those!
> Because...CCP!
> 
> https://cyclingindustry.news/counterfeit-dysons-and-dodgy-chargers-90- 
> of-products-entering-uk-fail-safety-tests
> 

CCP?

Interesting thing about UL labels (or not, depending on your level of 
interest): Only UL approved printers (businesses, not machines) are 
allowed to print UL approved labels.

https://www.ul.com/services/authorized-label-supplier-program-certification-marks

You _can_ use labels printed by an non-approved source, but you're 
required to submit the design and the materials used for the label for 
approval, and unless UL has previously approved the raw materials used 
for the label, you'll need to submit samples for testing, which my 
include subjecting the label to any chemical and environmental exposure 
the product may be subjected to in normal use.

Of course, counterfeits abound.

I may have already told this story - When I was working for Schneider 
Electric I had to work with the UL testing lab in Melville New York for 
approval of a fire control system for large buildings. One day the 
manager of the group had to go to JFK to witness the destruction of a 
shipment of christmas lights from China with counterfeit UL markings. He 
Said UL had a contract with a local paving company who would bring in a 
steamroller to crush the boxes on the tarmac.

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