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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Quality is not a feature
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 10:30:40 -0500
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On 12/20/2024 10:17 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 12/20/2024 9:04 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 12/20/2024 9:27 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> UL labels? Sure we can print those!
>>> Because...CCP!
>>>
>>> https://cyclingindustry.news/counterfeit-dysons-and-dodgy- 
>>> chargers-90- of-products-entering-uk-fail-safety-tests
>>>
>>
>> CCP?
>>
>> Interesting thing about UL labels (or not, depending on your level of 
>> interest): Only UL approved printers (businesses, not machines) are 
>> allowed to print UL approved labels.
>>
>> https://www.ul.com/services/authorized-label-supplier- program- 
>> certification-marks
>>
>> You _can_ use labels printed by an non-approved source, but you're 
>> required to submit the design and the materials used for the label for 
>> approval, and unless UL has previously approved the raw materials used 
>> for the label, you'll need to submit samples for testing, which my 
>> include subjecting the label to any chemical and environmental 
>> exposure the product may be subjected to in normal use.
>>
>> Of course, counterfeits abound.
>>
>> I may have already told this story - When I was working for Schneider 
>> Electric I had to work with the UL testing lab in Melville New York 
>> for approval of a fire control system for large buildings. One day the 
>> manager of the group had to go to JFK to witness the destruction of a 
>> shipment of christmas lights from China with counterfeit UL markings. 
>> He Said UL had a contract with a local paving company who would bring 
>> in a steamroller to crush the boxes on the tarmac.
>>
> 
> Which is great when no one cheats. Which could happen, but not yet.
> 
> https://www.thesilverlining.com/businessblog/blog/counterfeit-ul-symbols
> 

But what is CCP?


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