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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Quality is not a feature
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 10:41:41 -0500
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On 12/20/2024 10:34 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 12/20/2024 9:30 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 12/20/2024 10:17 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2024 9:04 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 12/20/2024 9:27 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> UL labels? Sure we can print those!
>>>>> Because...CCP!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cyclingindustry.news/counterfeit-dysons-and- dodgy- 
>>>>> chargers-90- of-products-entering-uk-fail-safety- tests
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CCP?
>>>>
>>>> Interesting thing about UL labels (or not, depending on your level 
>>>> of interest): Only UL approved printers (businesses, not machines) 
>>>> are allowed to print UL approved labels.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ul.com/services/authorized-label-supplier- program- 
>>>> certification-marks
>>>>
>>>> You _can_ use labels printed by an non-approved source, but you're 
>>>> required to submit the design and the materials used for the label 
>>>> for approval, and unless UL has previously approved the raw 
>>>> materials used for the label, you'll need to submit samples for 
>>>> testing, which my include subjecting the label to any chemical and 
>>>> environmental exposure the product may be subjected to in normal use.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, counterfeits abound.
>>>>
>>>> I may have already told this story - When I was working for 
>>>> Schneider Electric I had to work with the UL testing lab in Melville 
>>>> New York for approval of a fire control system for large buildings. 
>>>> One day the manager of the group had to go to JFK to witness the 
>>>> destruction of a shipment of christmas lights from China with 
>>>> counterfeit UL markings. He Said UL had a contract with a local 
>>>> paving company who would bring in a steamroller to crush the boxes 
>>>> on the tarmac.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which is great when no one cheats. Which could happen, but not yet.
>>>
>>> https://www.thesilverlining.com/businessblog/blog/ counterfeit-ul- 
>>> symbols
>>>
>>
>> But what is CCP?
>>
>>
> 
> Our overlords, the Chinese Communist Party, brought to you by WalMart.
> 

and DJT

https://apnews.com/article/trump-god-bless-usa-bible-china-32a80611605d4052d8238064bbcace4c

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