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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:45:40 -0500
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On 12/21/2024 10:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:18:31 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/20/2024 7:07 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:24:55 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/19/2024 7:29 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 07:50:15 -0800, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/18/2024 4:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:57:19 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/17/2024 7:31 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 12:40:22 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/16/2024 7:22 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:54:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
>>>>>>>>>>> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Snuffalapogous had stated Mr. Trump (not President
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at that time) had been found guilty of "rape", when, well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all know the legal technicalities and definition and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific legal issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not say "guilty".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of
>>>>>>>>>>>> 	that rape by a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The NBC Blue Network will pay $15 million to... his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presidential library...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-abc-george-stephanopoulos-lawsuit-defamation-b2664508.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not buying what the judge wrote last year that the plaintiff proved
>>>>>>>>>>>> "rape" as commonly understood by the public even though no rape had
>>>>>>>>>>>> occurred using the legal definition of "rape". The jury was asked to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make a specific finding of "rape" and they said no. She still won the
>>>>>>>>>>>> case on other points even if not on that point. The judge was wrong to
>>>>>>>>>>>> second guess the jury here on the finding they made on a specific set of
>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>       From your cited article:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "“Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of that
>>>>>>>>>>> rape by a jury,” Stephonopoulos said on ABC’s This Week at the time.
>>>>>>>>>>> “It’s been affirmed by a judge.”
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Juries in New York found Trump liable for defaming and sexually
>>>>>>>>>>> abusing E Jean Carroll after he repeatedly called her a liar for
>>>>>>>>>>> speaking publicly about allegations that he assaulted her in the
>>>>>>>>>>> 1990s. Trump has appealed the nearly $90 million in judgments against
>>>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Last year, the judge overseeing those cases wrote that Carroll’s
>>>>>>>>>>> failure to “prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New
>>>>>>>>>>> York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr Trump
>>>>>>>>>>> ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’”
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> “Indeed, as the evidence at trial ... makes clear, the jury found that
>>>>>>>>>>> Mr Trump in fact did exactly that,” US District Judge Lewis Kaplan
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly Trump has a case against the judge as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What redeeming aspect of Trump's character did George falsely besmirch?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you need the facts of ABC admitted lie explained to you, you're not
>>>>>>>>> worth the bytes it would take.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her.  Explain *that* fact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump was not convicted of rape.  ABC said he was.  They lied.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> End of story.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/
>>>>>
>>>>> No one cares.  He was charge and found not guilty.
>>>>>
>>>>> End of story.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you're right that not many care about the technical 'not guilty'.
>>>
>>> It's not technical.  It's fact.  Trying to spin otherwise is engaging
>>> in technicalities.
>>
>> It's a fact that NY law makes a misleading technical distinction.
>>
> 
> Laughter.
> 
> Go ahead and explain it for us.

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