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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clams casino <cc@invalid.cc> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: Redefining eternity Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 15:26:26 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 142 Message-ID: <vk7fah$85at$3@dont-email.me> References: <lr78rtFqhg0U1@mid.individual.net> <c73fca2236442f99667691e1644e662f@www.novabbs.org> <vjigsb$3khr2$3@dont-email.me> <8b164caec208041273fe49070d9ccf90@www.novabbs.org> <vjks4a$5ki7$1@dont-email.me> <vjmv2k$j734$7@dont-email.me> <bbd2efbb261ffedabcedebbdf4ee4668@www.novabbs.org> <b962a375-be09-e78d-7a22-f4897833e6f1@example.net> <vjq78u$1ali1$1@dont-email.me> <vjq7r4$1alc7$5@dont-email.me> <f55d1cb5-b63a-595e-fc86-92fc27b90efc@example.net> <vjvk92$2gaou$7@dont-email.me> <966cc735-5235-cbdc-aa03-dbd9829a043f@example.net> <vk1tfp$30dqi$4@dont-email.me> <a5c195b4-5f1d-ce46-a4ab-25f12b535d3b@example.net> <vk4mlr$3kf3a$13@dont-email.me> <9a7c2c29-afd7-f0bc-6947-3822102eb1ea@example.net> <vk4svv$3lqg0$2@dont-email.me> <0314453449864b79531d8009216a6a48@www.novabbs.org> <vk71h9$4rti$16@dont-email.me> <add2dd699fda07697090f03fe47d657a@www.novabbs.org> <vk763r$4rti$38@dont-email.me> <95151d37b03ee314fc3d0decc6503ae4@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 23:26:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c01ddb7df666339cb0ba15a183d4ff31"; logging-data="267613"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18GBGv8jyC0fVzI4g+nn4CPnAECEWLeB4Q=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:kwhFfzFb6mjEDPcw0Xtd7gVyiLs= In-Reply-To: <95151d37b03ee314fc3d0decc6503ae4@www.novabbs.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 8087 On 12/21/2024 2:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: > On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 19:49:16 +0000, clams casino wrote: > >> On 12/21/2024 12:23 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 18:12:34 +0000, clams casino wrote: >>> >>>> So you have one in Hawaii too? >>>> >>>> Wow- this truly is a lateral learning thread, nice work! >>>> >>>> https://hiroshimaforpeace.com/en/the-island-erased-from-the-map-okunoshima/ >>>> >>>> Okunoshima (Takehara City, Hiroshima Prefecture), a national park >>>> designated for about 4 kilometers in circumference, is known as the >>>> “Rabbit Island” where about 900 rabbits live. Many tourists, both >>>> domestic and international, visit the island every year. However, >>>> Okunoshima was once called “the island that was erased from the map.” >>>> From 1929 to 1945, Okunoshima was a location for producing poison gas >>>> for use in World War II. It was erased from the map as a national >>>> secret >>>> of Japan’s major chemical weapons production base. Historical sites >>>> related to the production of poison gas still remain on Okunoshima >>>> today >>>> and continue to tell the horrors of war. >>>> >>>> https://www.hawaii-aloha.com/blog/rabbit-islands-name-manana-and-its-story/ >>>> >>>> There are two reasons for Rabbit Island’s unusual name, one literal and >>>> one figurative. Manana Island was literally home to a rabbit colony, >>>> put >>>> there by plantation owner John Cummins back in the 1880s. Figuratively, >>>> it resembles what a rabbit’s head might look like while swimming if you >>>> have some imagination and look at it right from the right angle. >>>> >>>> Back to the actual rabbits of Rabbit Island: they were a disaster for >>>> the delicate ecosystem on Manana. It’s home and nesting site to many >>>> endangered native and migratory seabird species. Its tiny sand beach >>>> (the island itself is all of 67 acres) is the occasional home of >>>> itinerant (also endangered) Hawaiian monk seals as they hunt and sun >>>> their way through Hawaiian waters. Native naupaka and other plant life >>>> clings to windswept cliffs and slopes. >>>> >>>> It took about a hundred years, but the rabbits are gone from Rabbit >>>> Island Hawaii, Manana and new nesting sites have taken hold. Rabbit >>>> Island is returning to an untouched, rabbit-free natural state. >>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fVglIRufWM >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWA32UOqlWQ >>>> >>>> And with some tasty Hawaiian guitar (steel guitar) and even a bit of >>>> yodeling - nice tune. >>> >>> Falsetto singing is a big thing in Hawaii. Some people are just >>> stunning. >> >> My bad, not even the same as this: >> >> https://youtu.be/f7xw1Q7hwco >> >> But well in line with: >> >> https://youtu.be/0S13mP_pfEc >> >> Ah those high notes! >> >> I try that and Ella Fitzgerald rolls in her grave and 2 more cassette >> tape manufacturers go out of bidnits, lol. >> >> >>> This guy is singing about Akaka falls. The amazing part about >>> Akaka falls is that a tiny fish will climb 440 feet up the falls to get >>> to the top. I assume they climb up to spawn. It's surprising that those >>> fish are not extinct. My family would be extinct if I had to climb up >>> the falls to spawn. >> >> :-) >> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7PCmz5kCXE >>> >>> https://yankeebarbareno.com/2016/07/16/akaka-falls-hawaii-cliff-climbing-goby/ >> >> Fascinating local lore again, thx. >> >> “All species of gobies have a unique morphological feature: their adults >> have a peculiar fusion of pelvic fins to form a disc with a strong >> sucking power. Amphidromous gobies use their sucking disc to move >> upstream; the disc allows them to attach to stones and climb on vertical >> rock surfaces, and finally, to reach their home habitats even when they >> are located at high elevations above waterfalls.” >> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/es16jv/the_mandarin_goby_perhaps_the_most_ornately/ >> >> (unmatched beauty!) >> >> ....but I can't see where his suction disc is... >> >> In Canaduh, it's more evident: >> >> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/round-goby-fish-hamilton-harbour-1.4006195 >> >> Round goby fish, the invasive species that has monopolized the Great >> Lakes for almost 40 years, is now thriving in Hamilton Harbour because >> "they're able to live in these highly polluted environments," new >> research suggests. >> >> The round goby is native to Eurasia, particularly the Black Sea and >> Caspian Sea. It was introduced to the Great Lakes through the ballast >> water of ships. The first confirmed sighting in Lake Ontario was in >> 1998. >> >> The goby has been destructive because it is more aggressive than native >> fish and competes for the same food source. It also spawns more often >> than fish local to the Great Lakes — with more than 100 per square metre >> on the lake or river bottom in some areas. >> >> https://therouge.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Round-Goby-fins.jpg >> >> Round gobies lack a swim bladder, and movement is characterized by an >> alternating pattern of bottom rests and short swim bursts. Unlike native >> sculpins and darters, the gobies have fused pelvic fins that act like a >> suction cup. This gives the gobies a stronger ability to cling to rocks >> in faster currents and a migratory advantage for moving upstream against >> the current. > > That singing cowboy might be as laid back as the Hawaiians. I guess it > comes with living so close to the land. Da Hawaiians have cowboys too. > They got the cattle from the Brits. It was a gift to the King. The King > declared the cattle kapu. The cattle multiplied greatly. A lot of > introduced animals seem to do that. The Hawaiians learned to be cowboys > from the Mexicans. I don't know where the Hawaiian cowboys learned to > sing their songs. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNJRd55UYPk That just gallops along! I swear for a second I thought I was gonna hear Hava Nagila. https://youtu.be/siosAvAz_Nk?t=53 ;-)