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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: An LTSpice test bed for the gain control FET in "low distortion" oscillators Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 17:18:02 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vk8aur$gbls$1@dont-email.me> References: <vk6jup$2puc$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 07:18:04 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9934451556b55af13b372dd1b8c418ae"; logging-data="536252"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QUjaASsoHhcL3VC6TP5WBL6bitIAPYfY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:dqmmLxAchmRdwLqT5ShEaVMmKog= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 241222-0, 22/12/2024), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vk6jup$2puc$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 2552 On 22/12/2024 1:39 am, Bill Sloman wrote: > The Jim Williams low distortion Wein bridge depends on a FET for > amplitude control, but the FET isn't the perFectly linear resistor we'd > like it to be. > > And minimising the rectifier ripple in the gain control voltage applied > to the gate of the FET is tricky.The test bed example below is set to > apply 10uV of 2kHz ripple, which is less than any of my circuits can > manage - 2mV is closer to what the circuit I've posted could manage. > > I've put together a little LTSpice test bed to try to get some idea of > how non-linear the FET channel is. > > It looks as if there about 70uV of higher harmonic content in the 10.4mV > peak to peak voltage across the FET for the 1V peak to peak 1kHz test > signal. Tinkering got that down a bit to about 18uV with 3.5mV of 2kHz ripple - that seems to be the sweet spot where the 2kHz and 3kHz harmonics are both about 60dB below the 1kHz fundamental - moving away from that pushes one up and the other down. What's going on in the FET is still a mystery to me. I'd have to dig into the FET Spice model to get any idea. The semi-conductor physics should be well understood - I've got a textbook on my bookshelf that claims to spell it out - but translating that into a hand-on feel for what's actually going on isn't something I've ever needed to do. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney