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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 12:32:09 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vk8tbq$j9h1$1@dont-email.me> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <6c74c2e9-17d7-4eb4-afcd-c058309b6c8a@tha.de> <4327ba4a-e810-4565-83e8-b9572018ac35@att.net> <vjjmg2$3ukcl$1@dont-email.me> <b1d876ee-d815-4540-bc6f-fe7c27c146a3@att.net> <vjmgdm$i9be$1@dont-email.me> <abf7344d-b95b-4432-8626-8356dc1dd261@att.net> <vjn9ud$mlgt$2@dont-email.me> <4051acc5-d00a-40d2-8ef7-cf2b91ae75b6@att.net> <vjreik$1lokm$1@dont-email.me> <8d69d6cd-76bc-4dc1-894e-709d044e68a1@att.net> <vjst0u$1tqvv$3@dont-email.me> <7356267c-491b-45c2-b86a-d40c45dfa40c@att.net> <vjufr6$29khr$3@dont-email.me> <4bf8a77e-4b2a-471f-9075-0b063098153f@att.net> <vjv6uv$2dra0$1@dont-email.me> <31180d7e-1c2b-4e2b-b8d6-e3e62f05da43@att.net> <vk1brk$2srss$7@dont-email.me> <bb80c6c5-04c0-4e2d-bb21-ac51aab9e252@att.net> <vk23m7$31l8v$1@dont-email.me> <bce1b27d-170c-4385-8938-36805c983c49@att.net> <vk693m$f52$2@dont-email.me> <a17eb8b6-7d11-4c59-b98c-b4d5de8358ca@att.net> <vk7dmb$7mh2$2@dont-email.me> <b72490c1-e61a-4c23-a3a5-f624b2c084e4@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 12:32:10 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4210b256b816c828f36b138066e9f0e3"; logging-data="632353"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+EUbOnPe8s3FksxLLCn3S+7NEbmyYu07c=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:w0MUW46C1YnGI7//07eYgxcvPGA= In-Reply-To: <b72490c1-e61a-4c23-a3a5-f624b2c084e4@att.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3131 On 22.12.2024 11:16, Jim Burns wrote: > What does 'finite' mean? A set is finite if it contains a visible natural number of elements. All natural numbers are finite but the realm of dark numbers appears like infinity. > E(n+2) is the set of all finite.cardinals > n+2 > E(n+1) = E(n+2)∪{n+2} > > E(n+2)∪{n+2} isn't larger.than E(n+2) Wrong. > #E(n+2) isn't any of the finite.cardinals in ℕ It is an infinite number but even infinite numbers differ like |ℕ| =/= |ℕ| + 1. You must not defend Cantor's nonsense by Cantor's nonsense. All "countable cardinalities" are the same because only potential infinity is utilized. > > E(n+2) isn't any of the sets > smaller.than fuller.by.one sets. > > E(n+2) is emptier.by.one than E(n+1), but > E(n+2) isn't smaller.by.one than E(n+1). Wrong. The function E(n) decreases from infinity to zero by single steps of height 1 like the function NUF(x) increases by single steps of height 1. Set theorists must accept magic steps of infinite size or refuse to describe these transitions at all. Regards, WM > >