Deutsch   English   Français   Italiano  
<vkahna$t5gj$1@dont-email.me>

View for Bookmarking (what is this?)
Look up another Usenet article

Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail
From: Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Speaking of chirality - "mirror cell" could be a majorn threat
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 18:25:35 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 82
Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org
Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org
Message-ID: <vkahna$t5gj$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vk87u7$g2jl$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89";
	logging-data="75751"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org"
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org
Cancel-Lock: sha1:iJdW92QkwuC2hkgHBXT6in1D/JE=
Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org>
X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org
Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org
	id 19DB3229782; Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:26:00 -0500 (EST)
	by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A64DF229765
	for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sun, 22 Dec 2024 21:25:57 -0500 (EST)
	by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 4BN2Pp2u2775113
	(version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT)
	for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 03:25:52 +0100
	(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
	 key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256)
	(No client certificate requested)
	by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA3245FD39
	for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 02:25:48 +0000 (UTC)
Authentication-Results: name/DA3245FD39; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=curioustaxon.omy.net
	id 6EED5DC01BA; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 03:25:48 +0100 (CET)
X-Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 03:25:48 +0100 (CET)
X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18aqwyjUFhMBy558sClHtvMippndPIvraQ=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <vk87u7$g2jl$1@dont-email.me>
	tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,
	SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,
	USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6
	smtp.eternal-september.org
Bytes: 5199

On 12/21/24 9:26 PM, Pro Plyd wrote:
> 
> Great idea for a sci fi story. Like Andromeda Strain.
> 
> Or
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-nine
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywater
> 
> Other related links here
> 
> <https://news.google.com/stories/ 
> CAAqNggKIjBDQklTSGpvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoRUtEd2lwZ0xqeURCRWhCb2xna2Ewck9DZ0FQAQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen>
> 
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientist-working-create-mirror- 
> life-013650643.html
> Updated December 20, 2024
> 
> A scientist working to create 'mirror life'
> discovered it could be 'a perfect bioweapon.'
> She's asking other researchers to stop.
> 
> * A mirror microorganism could end up being a
> major pathogen since immune systems wouldn't
> notice it.
> 
> * Mirror-image biology inverts a fundamental
> property of life on Earth: which way molecules
> point.
> 
> ...
> Mirror biology takes a fundamental rule of
> life on Earth, called chirality, and flips it.
> 
> Chirality is the simple fact that molecules —
> like sugars and amino acids — point in one of
> two directions. They are either right-handed
> or left-handed.
> 
> For some reason, though, life uses only one
> chiral form of each molecule. DNA, for example,
> uses only right-handed sugars for its backbone.
> That's why it twists to the right.
> 
> In mirror biology, scientists aim to create
> living cells where all the chirality is flipped.
> Where natural life uses a right-handed peptide
> to build proteins, mirror life would use the
> same peptide in its left-handed form.
> ...
> A mirror pathogen "doesn't interact with the
> host," Adamala said. "It just uses it as a warm
> incubator with a lot of nutrients."
> 
> If a mirror bacteria escaped the lab, it could
> cause slow, persistent infections that couldn't
> be treated with antibiotics (because those,
> too, rely on chirality).
> 
> Because they wouldn't face immune resistance,
> mirror bacteria wouldn't need to specialize in
> infecting corn, or goats, or birds.
> 
> "It would be a disease of anything that lives
> that can be infected," Adamala said.
> 
> In the worst-case scenario, a mirror bacteria
> would multiply endlessly, unfettered. It would
> take over its hosts and eventually kill them.
> It would destroy crops. It would have no
> predators. It would overwhelm entire
> ecosystems, swapping out portions of our
> natural world for a new mirror world.
> ...

Possibly that's what happened, and we are living in the result.

-- 
Mark Isaak
"Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That
doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell