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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:27:30 -0500
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On 12/25/2024 11:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:49:20 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/24/2024 7:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 11:43:15 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/23/2024 7:24 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 13:20:30 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/22/2024 10:26 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:28:18 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/21/2024 10:21 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:10:29 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/20/2024 6:59 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:19:59 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2024 7:31 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:31:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2024 4:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:57:19 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her.  Explain *that* fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump was not convicted of rape.  ABC said he was.  They lied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End of story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But he wasn't in other jurisdictions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The harm to Donald Trump wws nominal. not $15 million worth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ABC obviously felt otherwise given that they caved so quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Umm... giant corporations don't piss off sitting Presidents, especially
>>>>>>>>>>>> not one who's vengeance-driven.  It's bad business.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Enough about Biden.  What about Trump?  BTW Trump is not yet the
>>>>>>>>>>> sitting President and it never stopped the media before so your claim
>>>>>>>>>>> is ridiculous.  ABC was caught in libel and paid big time.  End of
>>>>>>>>>>> story.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not the "end of story" just because you stop reading.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're welcome to explain it us how a jury finding Trump not guilty of
>>>>>>>>> rape makes him guilty of it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Laugher.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's legal guilt, and then there's understood guilt.  Trump escapes
>>>>>>>> the former only by a specific distinction in a specific jurisdiction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good grief.  You can't state that someone was convicted of rape when
>>>>>>> they weren't.  That's libel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, if you knew they weren't.  And iirc he said "found *liable* for
>>>>>> rape", not "convicted" ...which may have been raised as relevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you now trying to say that Boy George gave an interview without
>>>>> doing his homework?
>>>>
>>>> No, as I understand it, his homework was even done *for* him.  But he
>>>> chose to describe Trump as harshly as possible.  It's unclear what
>>>> verdict a full reckoning -- i.e., no "settlement" -- would've given.
>>>>
>>>
>>> To state that he was convicted of rape is not a description.  It's a
>>> claim of fact, which is why ABC is paying big bucks.
>>
>> Again, he said "found *liable* for rape", not "convicted".  And, again,
>> it's unclear whether that difference might've borne out as important.
>>
> 
> He was not convicted nor "iiable" for rape.  The judge in the civil
> case was wrong on the law as much as you are.  It's a shame you can't
> sue judges cause that would be fantastic.

Afaik, there's no definitive meaning of "found liable for rape".