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On 12/25/2024 7:24 PM, cyclintom wrote:
> On Wed Dec 25 13:09:00 2024 AMuzi  wrote:
>> On 12/25/2024 11:44 AM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Tue Dec 24 08:14:06 2024 zen cycle  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Since you obviously didn't read the article, here's this little tidbit:
>>>> "[Laura] Hobb?s father, Jerry Hobbs.....was falsely imprisoned for five
>>>> years awaiting trial before Avila-Torrez was determined to be Laura?s
>>>> actual killer. "
>>>>
>>>> If death penalty proponents had their way, the father would have been
>>>> executed for a crime he didn't commit. This, exactly, was the reason
>>>> Governor George Ryan issued a moratorium in 2000 and the state abolished
>>>> the death penalty in 2011.
>>>
>>>
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>>> Our local dick sucker has never been on a jury and he doesn't understand one of the things at work from reducing the death sentence to life in prison. Neither the DA's nor the juries take anywhere near as clear a line at "Beyond the Shadow of a Doubt" and reduce it to Beyond a Reasonable Doubt which DA's are happy to build a case around since it isn't their lives at stake.
>>
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>> You might find your arguments more persuasive by omitting
>> the 3d and 4th word above.
>>
>> Or not, but it couldn't hurt.
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> I don't find the need to persuade anyone that child murderers should be treated with kid gloves.I have been on the jury for pediphiles 

Sure ya were - was that before or after your career as a business 
development manager?


> and after one look at the jury after initial testimony (for the defense mind you) his lawyer recommended that he take a deal and he did. That the parents didn't walk over and twist his head off I couldn't say. There was an entire jury ready to say "I didn't see a thing".
> 
> When you try someone for "above reasonable doubt", DA's are looking for a career building event and will proudly put the wrong man in prison for life. Trying someone on the grounds of "above a shadow of a doubt" they have to really make a case such as having eye witnesses.


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