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Subject: Re: The damage Biden has done. It's a myth: NO damage
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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message 
news:vkknao$366qc$2@dont-email.me...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:676cbe9e$0$3068684
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <vki62q$2joho$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:676c8c3a$2$3620716$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>
>>> > In article <B9%aP.21952$mi11.9422@fx48.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>> >>
>>> >> On 12/13/2024 9:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>> >> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:vjflen$2t2cf$1@dont-email.me...
>>> >> >> On 12/12/24 11:11 AM, Scout wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>> news:vjdgnd$1qdi9$3@dont-email.me...
>>> >> >>>> On 12/11/24 6:33 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> >> >>>>> In article <vjd0un$1nulf$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> >> >>>>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> >> >>>>>> news:6759ed13$13$3828$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> In article <vjcps6$1mhot$3@dont-email.me>,
>>> >> >>>>>>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> >> >>>>>>>> news:6759b2d9$8$1895507 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking skills
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> within
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the GOP:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [quote]
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> deportations:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> illegals who are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> labor force..."
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> already part
>>> >> >>>>>>>> of
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> the labor force."
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [/quote]
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal
> from
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Witness. Millions of illegals have flooded the labor
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> market, and still are.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> from -
>>> >> >>>>>>>> highhorse.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> higher, MUCH higher prices for your food.  And empty
> shelves
>>> >> >>>>>>>> until you can recruit and train those workers.  From time
> to
>>> >> >>>>>>>> time some have tried those jobs, they flat cannot keep up
>>> >> >>>>>>>> with those immigrants.
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> Your racism aside, if they have work visas there should be
> no
>>> >> >>>>>>> problem. See how that works?
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> They refuse to issue work visas.  There are virtually NO
> legal
>>> >> >>>>>> way to immigate to the US.  People have been on waiting
> lists
>>> >> >>>>>> for decades.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Bullshit. It can be done from their own country. I lived on
> the
>>> >> >>>>> border in AZ for many years. I know how it works.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> So much depends on what category, which type of permit and
> with
>>> >> >>>> which restrictions...and they all have quotas.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> For example, for someone who's applying for a green card based
>>> >> >>>> on just being an adult sibling of a US Citizen already living
>>> >> >>>> here, it falls into a country quota set in the 1964
> immigration
>>> >> >>>> act, and while the general que is over a decade long, some
>>> >> >>>> countries such as Mexico are even longer.  To whit:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> [quote]
>>> >> >>>> How Long Does It Take Siblings of U.S. Citizens To Get a Green
>>> >> >>>> Card? The process usually takes 14-16 years for siblings of
> U.S.
>>> >> >>>> citizens.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> However, it depends on your home country:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> For citizens of India, the process can take 16+ years
>>> >> >>>> For citizens of Mexico, 20+ years
>>> >> >>>> For citizens of the Philippines, 24+ years
>>> >> >>>> [/quote]
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> <https://www.immigrationhelp.org/learning-center/green-card-
>>> >> >>>> processing-times>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> And as you should know, a green card is the pragmatic minimum
>>> >> >>>> for planning residency, because work permits are quite
>>> >> >>>> temporary.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Agreed the system needs an overhaul and to be updated, but that
>>> >> >>> doesn't change the principles under discussion.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Except that the principle is for opportunity for people to
>>> >> >> immigrate and contribute to society (eg, work):  that can't
> happen
>>> >> >> when the wait times are generational (eg 25 years).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I agree the system needs a major overhaul and update,
>>> >>
>>> >> No, scooter, you don't agree with that.
>>> >>
>>> >> > but that still doesn't mean you get to freely ignore the law.
>>> >> When the system doesn't work, scooter, people break the law.
>>> >
>>> > Like the border.
>>>
>>> tRump says the border is no longer a problem.  You failing to keep up
>>> with his lies.
>>
>> You sure spun that one around.
>>
>> BTW we won.
>>
> You didn't win.  We didn't win.  Only the oligarchs won.

"Kamala Harris Has More Billionaires Prominently Backing Her Than 
Trump-Bezos And Griffin Weigh In"

"Our breakdown records 83 billionaires supporting Harris and 52 backing 
Trump so far (see the lists for both below)."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/30/kamala-harris-has-more-billionaires-prominently-backing-her-than-trump-bezos-and-griffin-weigh-in-updated/

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